Look, I’m discussing in good faith. I’ll look at those links in detail but I’ll be shocked if they are any different than anything else I’ve read on the matter

Look, I’m discussing in good faith. I’ll look at those links in detail but I’ll be shocked if they are any different than anything else I’ve read on the matter where word games tend to be played to frame the information to support a point of view. All I will say is on the last quote that you posted: guns per capita as a predictor of firearm related death in a country. Of course it is. Just as cars per capita are a predictor of automobile related deaths. The greater presence of anything the more often it will be involved than places where it’s not. This simply doesn’t prove anything at all.