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> It can only happen by consensus: that is, if everyone agrees Ok, and if everyone uses a "consensus" to kick someone out, based on race, that should not be a

by stale2002 5y ago

> It can only happen by consensus: that is, if everyone agrees Ok, and if everyone uses a "consensus" to kick someone out, based on race, that should not be allowed, and the government monopoly on violence, should be used to enact legal arrests or fines on those people/communities. The law should come in, and prevent this group from kicking people out, based on race, even if they have "consensus". > then maybe this community isn't for you Maybe communities that are engaging in actions that break individual rights, that are protected by law, should be shut down by the government, or arrested, or fined, for breaking anti-discrimination laws.

dkersten 5y ago
> and if everyone uses a "consensus" to kick someone out Then do you really want to live there? At this point, it becomes important what the rules say happens to your shares if you're kicked out, they did not explain this in the video. > The law should come in > that are protected by law It does. These people aren't above the law. You are free to challenge them in court if you feel your are being discriminated against. > should be shut down by the government, or arrested, or fined, for breaking anti-discrimination laws. And if it happens, maybe they would be. Until they actually break the laws, by kicking someone out or otherwise breaking anti-discrimination laws, they haven't broken any laws. You are equating "their internal rules would allow them to" to them actually doing it. They aren't and haven't (she said they've never kicked anyone out and would do it only in extreme cases). So why are you so hung up about something that's never happened? Their internal rules cannot override state or federal anti-discrimination laws and you have the same recourse there as you do anywhere else: you bring them to court for breaking the law. If that’s not enough guarantee for your comfort then the solution is to not buy a house there. Nobody is forcing anyone to live there, if they’re not comfortable with the community or it’s rules.

dkersten 5y ago

> and if everyone uses a "consensus" to kick someone out Then do you really want to live there? At this point, it becomes important what the rules say happens to your shares if you're kicked out, they did not explain this in the video. > The law should come in > that are protected by law It does. These people aren't above the law. You are free to challenge them in court if you feel your are being discriminated against. > should be shut down by the government, or arrested, or fined, for breaking anti-discrimination laws. And if it happens, maybe they would be. Until they actually break the laws, by kicking someone out or otherwise breaking anti-discrimination laws, they haven't broken any laws. You are equating "their internal rules would allow them to" to them actually doing it. They aren't and haven't (she said they've never kicked anyone out and would do it only in extreme cases). So why are you so hung up about something that's never happened? Their internal rules cannot override state or federal anti-discrimination laws and you have the same recourse there as you do anywhere else: you bring them to court for breaking the law. If that’s not enough guarantee for your comfort then the solution is to not buy a house there. Nobody is forcing anyone to live there, if they’re not comfortable with the community or it’s rules.