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> Where agile often went off the rails is when people implemented agile in a way that contradicts the four values I can't remember a discussion about Agile in
by krona 5y ago
> Where agile often went off the rails is when people implemented agile in a way that contradicts the four values
I can't remember a discussion about Agile in which the No true Scotsman fallacy wasn't mentioned at least once.
- g051051 5y agoI've yet to meet an "agile" proponent that didn't act like a religious zealot.
- jdlshore 5y ago> No true Scotsman, or appeal to purity, is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect their universal generalization from a falsifying counterexample by excluding the counterexample improperly. (Wikipedia) Please explain how the statement you quoted relates to the One True Scotsman fallacy. “It doesn’t work because you’re doing it wrong” is not an example of the fallacy. (For example: “A: Light bulbs suck because they don’t light up when you smash them into your head. B: That’s not how lightbulbs work. A: No True Scotsman!” Yeah, no.)
- g051051 5y ago> Where agile often went off the rails is when people implemented agile in a way that contradicts the four values "If your attempt at agile goes off the rails, you probably implemented it in a way that contradicts the four values".
- solarengineer 5y ago"If you understand and apply these four values, you have a higher chance at delivery high-quality software reliably and on time"
- g051051 5y agoThat's a very reasonable statement, and is much easier to debate. In my experience, it's been the opposite...attempting to apply those four "value" results in more problems than it ever solves, because those four "values" are prioritizing the wrong things.
- jboy55 5y ago"If your attempt at agile resulted in a system that wasn't agile, then you probably implemented in a way that wasn't agile"
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