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My issue is that much of Agile in practice ignores the first value and puts process over people. This is especially true with Scrum.
by mobjack 5y ago
My issue is that much of Agile in practice ignores the first value and puts process over people.
This is especially true with Scrum.
- DarknessFalls 5y agoWell how many points would you assign to that story?
- mobjack 5y agoWhat is the definition of done?
- g051051 5y agoWe can discuss all that at the retro.
- qqtt 5y agoBring those action items to the grooming session.
- dopidopHN 5y agoI was told to use planning rather than grooming because it could offend our British partners. I suppose it’s because of a reference to sexual grooming ? Is that a English word only? Or maybe dog grooming is a touchy subject in the US. I have no idea, culture evade me often here. I sure did bring those items in grooming, it was promptly dismiss because too broad for the scope of the sprint at hand. and kept for retro, where it could be properly buried for 4-6 weeks while someone take it as a action item of the retro. The thing is : I kinda like Agile and Scrum. But it can become very circular if Product owner are not keeping everyone feets close to the fire.
- jordanbeiber 5y ago”Refinement”. We’re doing refinement these days.
- skinkestek 5y ago> I was told to use planning rather than grooming because it could offend our British partners. This, a national tragedy that isn't yet very well know I guess: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uk+grooming+scandal+&t=fpas&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uk+grooming+scandal+&t=fpas&ia=web
- riffraff 5y agoBut surely we should not ban the term, and actually speak more of this, not less, so it doesn't happen again?
- skinkestek 5y agoKind of agree. But be aware that for anyone who knows the full details, this word might bring about a visceral reaction. It is beyond ugly.
- watwut 5y agoGrooming session sounds creepy.
- jrootabega 5y agoIt puts the process people over the producing people. It's a great vector for graft and jobs programs. Once that has taken hold it's fatal.
- rramadass 5y agoThis right here is the essence of everything that is wrong with Agile. I sometimes think the term "Bullshit Job" was made to describe Agile/Scrum specific positions :-)
- heian0224 5y agoAgree with this,many people think that the right process is agile. In fact, many times they don't consider the practical significance of these processes at all,but just learn from others' processes. This has no significance for agile practice
- greatgib 5y agoThe worst is that it is like enslaving: Management will tell you that it is not the case, because it is agile so it is you that decided the process even if it was imposed to you... And that you are negative to complain, because it cost nothing for you "to try"...