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This is a very American system solution and it won’t work. People go on and on about getting rid qualified immunity but it’s only a partial immunity and cases a
by bradleyjg 5y ago
This is a very American system solution and it won’t work. People go on and on about getting rid qualified immunity but it’s only a partial immunity and cases are still fairly frequently lost. Look at what happens in those cases—-the city pays a lot of money. The cops suffer no consequences at all. They pay nothing. They even often get overtime for participating in the trial.
Lawsuits are a failed means of regulation when it comes to state actors (they are a failure in regulating other things as well but that’s a different conversation). It’s time we admit that instead of insisting we just need this one more tweak.
Let’s put in place real political accountability and then empower politicians to make genuine reforms—-even over the objections of civil service unions.
- yeetaccount 5y agoIf the police unions don’t like your laws they don’t enforce them. If they really don’t like you, they don’t show up at your house when there’s an intruder. If they really really don’t like you, they are the intruder.
- erdos4d 5y agoQuiet man, these fucking bootlickers will start understanding its all just a big protection racket if you keep making sense like this!
- Spivak 5y agoDoesn’t the first one make sense though? Isn’t the refusal to enforce laws the check the executive branch, at all levels of government, has on the legislature?
- giantg2 5y agoI don't think so. They are supposed to set standards or make tweaks for how the law should be enforced. They aren't supposed to outright ignore it. Just like judges are not supposed to legislate from the bench. I think the misapplication and unequal enforcement of the law undermines the entire system. Nobody will think it's fair that they get prosecuted and some other person doesn't. Justice for all, my ass.
- giantg2 5y agoAccount name checks out
- ajsnigrutin 5y ago> real political accountability How about personal accountability of the officers involved? Person X did something illegal and ended up in jail. Officer Y did something illegal, and the taxpayers paid the wrongfully accused.
- bradleyjg 5y agoThat’s the ultimate idea but since we have elected government as intermediaries between us and managing the police we need to fix the one in order to fix the other.
- ajsnigrutin 5y agoBut if a mcdonalds worker rapes a customer, do we deal with Ronald or with the actual rapist? Just locking up the cops involved would solve a lot of problems.
- bradleyjg 5y agoIf a cop kills someone and the other cops drag their feet on the investigation and then the prosecutors sandbag the case in front of the grand jury, what can I random citizen do? We need politicians that can and will hold these departments accountable for their performance, including their performance when investigating crimes by cops.