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The New Brunswick government is corrupt to the core, the entire province is run by the Irving family, including the government, so its not any kind of shock the

by throwaway2048 5y ago

The New Brunswick government is corrupt to the core, the entire province is run by the Irving family, including the government, so its not any kind of shock they stifle oversight. About 60% of the employees in the province are employed by Irving family owned businesses, they have basically total economic control.

baybal2 5y ago
NB is also the most immigration friendly province in Canada. It proactively imports tons of IT companies looking for cheap visas.
- emmelaich 5y ago
  Perhaps looking for cheap(er) employees.
  - MrBoomixer 5y ago
    Cheaper employees and to fill in the talent gap. Most local talent is busy and not moving around, the population is not big enough to fill in the hires. We also outsource our devs to other countries (in my experience USA). I assume it's because we're cheaper as well...
- m00x 5y ago
  Also bilingual, so it's a great province to move into if you're French and looking to learn English.
gruez 5y ago
>so its not any kind of shock they stifle oversight. How does suppressing this disease help the corrupt government and/or the Irving family?
- msbarnett 5y ago
  If they have reason to believe that, eg, the timing of the appearance of this cluster lines up with (to pull a hypothetical out of the air) industrial waste dumping in the Acadian peninsula water supply, attempting to muddy the water over whether this is a cluster with a shared cause or a bunch of fluke one-offs is certainly in their interests.
- matthewdgreen 5y ago
  The Irving businesses seem to include a number of industrial concerns, including oil refineries, forestry and factories. If environmental contamination is a possible factor in this disease (and here’s an article suggesting that’s a top candidate) then one of those businesses could very well be a source. (And even if it isn’t the cause of this disease cluster, who knows what results might pop out of a thorough environmental analysis.) https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/atlantic/2021/3/26/1_5363850.html https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/atlantic/2021/3/26/1_5363850.h...
tejtm 5y ago
As a child when there I did not know that ... but I knew the name https://trademark.trademarkia.com/irving-75613723.html https://trademark.trademarkia.com/irving-75613723.html
revolvingocelot 5y ago
This is a factor often overlooked when discussing New Brunswick (though I'm not certain I've ever seen New Brunswick discussed on HN before. Add in the McCains, and that's pretty much everybody.
- MrBoomixer 5y ago
  Google results for where New Brunswick appeared on Hacker news if your interested: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fnews.ycombinator.com+%22New+Brunswick https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fnews.yc...
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baybal2 5y ago

NB is also the most immigration friendly province in Canada. It proactively imports tons of IT companies looking for cheap visas.

emmelaich 5y ago
Perhaps looking for cheap(er) employees.
- MrBoomixer 5y ago
  Cheaper employees and to fill in the talent gap. Most local talent is busy and not moving around, the population is not big enough to fill in the hires. We also outsource our devs to other countries (in my experience USA). I assume it's because we're cheaper as well...
m00x 5y ago
Also bilingual, so it's a great province to move into if you're French and looking to learn English.

gruez 5y ago

>so its not any kind of shock they stifle oversight. How does suppressing this disease help the corrupt government and/or the Irving family?

msbarnett 5y ago
If they have reason to believe that, eg, the timing of the appearance of this cluster lines up with (to pull a hypothetical out of the air) industrial waste dumping in the Acadian peninsula water supply, attempting to muddy the water over whether this is a cluster with a shared cause or a bunch of fluke one-offs is certainly in their interests.
matthewdgreen 5y ago
The Irving businesses seem to include a number of industrial concerns, including oil refineries, forestry and factories. If environmental contamination is a possible factor in this disease (and here’s an article suggesting that’s a top candidate) then one of those businesses could very well be a source. (And even if it isn’t the cause of this disease cluster, who knows what results might pop out of a thorough environmental analysis.) https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/atlantic/2021/3/26/1_5363850.html https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/atlantic/2021/3/26/1_5363850.h...

tejtm 5y ago

As a child when there I did not know that ... but I knew the name https://trademark.trademarkia.com/irving-75613723.html https://trademark.trademarkia.com/irving-75613723.html

revolvingocelot 5y ago

This is a factor often overlooked when discussing New Brunswick (though I'm not certain I've ever seen New Brunswick discussed on HN before. Add in the McCains, and that's pretty much everybody.

MrBoomixer 5y ago
Google results for where New Brunswick appeared on Hacker news if your interested: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fnews.ycombinator.com+%22New+Brunswick https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fnews.yc...

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