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I know quite a few people who grew up on a kibbutz, Israeli communes that were formed mostly in the early 20th century. Most of them "privatized" in the last ge
by netcan 5y ago
I know quite a few people who grew up on a kibbutz, Israeli communes that were formed mostly in the early 20th century. Most of them "privatized" in the last generation. They were quite successful. One of the bigger modern examples.
A noteworthy point made by most first-handers is that "mission" was a necessary component. Kibbutzim often offered a relatively pleasant lifestyle, but lifestyle alone could not keep them alive. They needed to be fulfilling a greater purpose. For Kibbutzim the mission was zionism, socialism or other ideal. "Ideology" is an important concept to kibbutzniks.
Kibbutz lifestyle and economics were good when the movement started to recede. It was the changing ideals that killed it, especially the decline of socialist beliefs in the 80s & 90s.
I think it's also notable that a lot of communes exist in the world. Most are religious. Many are quirky, even cultish. This probably provides the "greater mission" old kibbutzniks insist is essential to success.
A lot of the modern, secular equivalents are "eco villages." I could imagine a libertarian one or other anarchist idea set.
- robocat 5y agoI like this article which is mostly about one guy, but contains some of the background on the changes to Kibbutzism: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1989/07/09/farewell-to-the-kibbutz/6eac78f1-3e36-4d45-9fe8-fb2e58a26ff1/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1989/07/09/... An article from 1986 said: “About 20,000 volunteers”, “Israel’s 280 kibbutzim”, “About 3 percent of Israel’s 3.5 million Jewish population live on communal farms” implies ~5% labour from volunteers (assuming 3 month average stay and full time work). https://apnews.com/article/96bc6ecc6ae2f9ba6c4707a39babffa6 https://apnews.com/article/96bc6ecc6ae2f9ba6c4707a39babffa6 A modern equivalent in New Zealand is wwoofers.
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