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Fun fact 2: Most of Google was using Windows in the early 2000s because of the need for Outlook and similar software that was Windows-only as well. Even now th
by sn_master 5y ago
Fun fact 2: Most of Google was using Windows in the early 2000s because of the need for Outlook and similar software that was Windows-only as well.
Even now that Macs are an option in most FAANG+, most non-fresh-grad hires either pick Linux or Windows machines and completely avoid Macs.
- jboy55 5y agoIn support for your first sentence, Macs were very unusual for techs in the valley until OSX. I ran a linux laptop for a long time until I gave in and stopped doing my own IT and got a Macbook.
- fzzzy 5y agoUm, OS X was 20 years ago
- jboy55 5y agoYup, I've been a mac user at work for the last 18 years. Before that it was linux on laptops.
- short12 5y agoTo be fair at that time macs were extremely niche in every industry. Even graphics was dwindling. Now mac's are still niche just not as tiny as before
- jboy55 5y agoIn the pre-OSX era, Macs were only found in significant numbers in the creative areas. With OSX, Macs became the defacto standard in software development.
- short12 5y agoDefacto standard? Lol not even close
- short12 5y agoIn fact it comes in third place behind windows and linux
- jboy55 5y agoSorry, that is wrong, I work at a FAANG (not apple) and have worked at plenty of startups and small to mid-sized companies. I can count the windows users on one hand. I know Walmart and contract engineers have massive office complexes around the US, they probably are all Windows due to the costs. I'd love to see your stats. https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-developers-primary-operating-systems https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-...
- ghaff 5y ago>completely avoid Macs As someone who normally attends quite a few tech conference events, that doesn't square remotely with what I see. Macs are out of all proportion to their percentage in the world at large. While it's harder to have an inventory of the rest, I assume they're mostly Linux given that one hardly ever sees a speaker presenting from a Windows laptop. [ADDED: This is in the context of events that are not Microsoft-centric.]
- wk_end 5y agoMy understanding is that MacBooks are much less popular outside of North America, where they are indeed ubiquitous.
- short12 5y agoI wouldnt call them ubiquitous in north America by any stretch of the imagination. Popular in very specific fields and I agree. Their market share in the USA is 16 percent. That's getting clobbered by windows primarily
- ghaff 5y agoThat's entirely possible. I go to a fair number of European events but there are a lot of North Americans at them as well. I wouldn't be at all surprised if pricing made MacBooks even more premium outside the US.
- ChrisRR 5y agoDepends on the industry. In embedded, I've only ever seen one person use a mac for work
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- leobg 5y agoI remember a story where a journalist sent an email with a tracking pixel to Tim Cook and it reported the user agent as being a Windows PC running Outlook.
- deanCommie 5y agoMost exec email goes through an executive assistant filter. With C-execs, usually a team.
- armadsen 5y agoI think this is the story you're talking about: https://www.wired.com/story/how-email-open-tracking-quietly-took-over-the-web/ https://www.wired.com/story/how-email-open-tracking-quietly-.... But it's pretty flimsy evidence. Undoubtedly Tim Cook has somebody, or more likely several somebodies handling his (external) email.
- anthk 5y agoIn the USA, in the rest of the world Mac is just the machine to code against iOS and nothing else. Most media producers today switched to Windows.