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I don't think I'd consider working in office for a company for my next position. All recruiters that email me in office work are ignored, all remote options get

I don't think I'd consider working in office for a company for my next position. All recruiters that email me in office work are ignored, all remote options get a reply and go on a list for when I'm looking again. I want to eventually own a home but that's not going to happen for a long while in the Northern NJ area for me. For some place with temperatures I prefer more, lower taxes, and cheaper cost of living? It's definitely a possibility already.

HenryKissinger 5y ago
> All recruiters that email me in office work are ignored I would write a short reply that you won't consider their offers solely because of the office work requirement. Otherwise they can't be certain why they're being ignored. Make it abundantly clear why you're not interested. So when their managers grill them for low performance they can show them: Here boss, people aren't biting because we're asking them to come into the office. We need to change this asap.
- gravypod 5y ago
  That's a good point. I think I'll start doing that. Hopefully it (in a small way) nudges the industry.
  - erikerikson 5y ago
    Maybe throw in a 4-day work week too?
    - piva00 5y ago
      I've been floating that sometimes, just to gauge interest. I tell them that I'd be willing to change if a 4-day work week would be offered, at least covering my current salary. It's a 20% increase in pay and I'd absolutely love to work Mon-Thu.
- skeeter2020 5y ago
  Considering I get fire-bombed by recruiters who don't even consider my geographic location, skills or stated desires, and who also can't be bothered to even acknowledge me when I respond like you suggest, I'd say don't waste your time. The vast majority of recruiters only want something from you and treat you like garbage once they're not going to get it. The profession's abysmal reputation is well deserved.
oceanplexian 5y ago
It’s too bad because there’s nothing wrong with offices, it’s the implication that you’re required to show up on some kind of schedule or something. “We have a fantastic office locations with free food, cool decor and meeting spaces, and you can go whenever you want”, but remote work is OK as much as you need/want is a great pitch to me.
- gravypod 5y ago
  Yea, fully agreed. I don't care about the existence of an office. I do care about the costs associated with me needing to be in the office. I recently ran the numbers for current job and, assuming I spend $15/meal + $1/cup of coffee, I still lose ~$3/day just commuting when I take advantage of free office breakfast/lunch food + microkitchen coffee. I also do not spend $15/per meal (my breakfast+lunch meal this morning ~$.60 to ~$1.60 depending on cost of ingredients, electricity, and my time). I would, however, not mind having an optional office (and would actually prefer working for a company like that) so if it's a really hot day or I'm feeling crumby and want to change my scenery for a day or two I have a place I can go.

HenryKissinger 5y ago

> All recruiters that email me in office work are ignored I would write a short reply that you won't consider their offers solely because of the office work requirement. Otherwise they can't be certain why they're being ignored. Make it abundantly clear why you're not interested. So when their managers grill them for low performance they can show them: Here boss, people aren't biting because we're asking them to come into the office. We need to change this asap.

gravypod 5y ago
That's a good point. I think I'll start doing that. Hopefully it (in a small way) nudges the industry.
- erikerikson 5y ago
  Maybe throw in a 4-day work week too?
  - piva00 5y ago
    I've been floating that sometimes, just to gauge interest. I tell them that I'd be willing to change if a 4-day work week would be offered, at least covering my current salary. It's a 20% increase in pay and I'd absolutely love to work Mon-Thu.
skeeter2020 5y ago
Considering I get fire-bombed by recruiters who don't even consider my geographic location, skills or stated desires, and who also can't be bothered to even acknowledge me when I respond like you suggest, I'd say don't waste your time. The vast majority of recruiters only want something from you and treat you like garbage once they're not going to get it. The profession's abysmal reputation is well deserved.

oceanplexian 5y ago

It’s too bad because there’s nothing wrong with offices, it’s the implication that you’re required to show up on some kind of schedule or something. “We have a fantastic office locations with free food, cool decor and meeting spaces, and you can go whenever you want”, but remote work is OK as much as you need/want is a great pitch to me.

gravypod 5y ago
Yea, fully agreed. I don't care about the existence of an office. I do care about the costs associated with me needing to be in the office. I recently ran the numbers for current job and, assuming I spend $15/meal + $1/cup of coffee, I still lose ~$3/day just commuting when I take advantage of free office breakfast/lunch food + microkitchen coffee. I also do not spend $15/per meal (my breakfast+lunch meal this morning ~$.60 to ~$1.60 depending on cost of ingredients, electricity, and my time). I would, however, not mind having an optional office (and would actually prefer working for a company like that) so if it's a really hot day or I'm feeling crumby and want to change my scenery for a day or two I have a place I can go.