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> Dunbar's Number It's ok. You don't have to scale. Just have lots and lots of smaller communes and federate. If email and ActivityPub can work like that, why
by southerntofu 5y ago
> Dunbar's Number
It's ok. You don't have to scale. Just have lots and lots of smaller communes and federate. If email and ActivityPub can work like that, why not AFK communities?
> Iron Law of Oligarchy
Now that's really not a scientific concept. Just because something does not appear to exist doesn't mean it's not possible. I personally strongly disagree that any form of organization is tyranny: depending on the modes of organizing, it can be pretty liberatory in giving a common framework for empowering me to act in ways i could never if i were alone and isolated.
Building collective power is not necessarily to the detriment of individual power, though i'm not suggesting that finding a balance is always easy.
- throwamon 5y ago> Just have lots and lots of smaller communes and federate As long as humans are humans, good luck. If even a tiny percentage of these have even slightly above average narcissism / sociopathic tendencies / charisma, we'll be seeing social dynamics play out that end up in winner-take-all situations and tensions, communes merging into larger structures based on ideology, etc.
- mcculley 5y agoI am interested in how well even smaller communes have scaled through time and not necessarily through space and population size. One force that works against communism is the tendency of people to favor their progeny when allocating resources. Is there good documentation or history on communes that survive through multiple generations?
- smitty1e 5y ago> strongly disagree that any form of organization is tyranny Not to get hung up on your quantifier, or the idea of organization as such, the issue is the feedback loops that keep the organizational structure in acceptable trim. The overwhelming majority of bureaucracies tend toward a Tower of Babel situation over time.