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As somebody who's been hit a few times by cyclists, one time suffering long-term injury to my elbow, I feel like I've grown pretty attuned to getting out of the
by bane 5y ago
As somebody who's been hit a few times by cyclists, one time suffering long-term injury to my elbow, I feel like I've grown pretty attuned to getting out of their way. Yet in Amsterdam I kept getting belled, yelled at, or pushed. The busier parts of Amsterdam along people's commute are really quite scary as a pedestrian, there's often not enough room for 2 people to comfortable stand side-by-side without getting a bell or a curse from overpacked bikes on similarly narrow bike lanes bleeding out from their designated lanes. In some of the narrower streets there often isn't even place for pedestrians to walk separated from cars and bikes, but bikes will act as if the entire area is theres.
After a few days there I finally started to get the system. Because some areas have sidewalks and bike lanes at the same level, I noticed cyclists will often use the sidewalks to pass slower bikes. I realized then that just like in any other big city, you have to stand up for yourself and when a cyclist is on a pedestrian right-of-way and decides to get up in your face, you're completely within your rights to push back and kindly show them the edges of the bike lane they've left. It reminded me a bit of figuring out how to get around NYC.
Outside of the cramped shared spaces in Amsterdam the aggression levels are understandably much lower and the separation between bikes and pedestrians is more manageable, and I never once had an issue elsewhere in the Netherlands.
- TheDong 5y ago> As somebody who's been hit a few times by cyclists, one time suffering long-term injury to my elbow, I feel like I've grown pretty attuned to getting out of their way I feel like getting hit by cyclists a few times does not mean you're more attuned to getting out of their way, but rather attuned to either walking in bike-lanes or just totally not paying attention. Or unlucky. Normally I'd say just unlucky, but.... I don't think the attitude of "you're completely within your rights to push back and kindly show them the edges of the bike lane" shows a winning strategy for "getting out of their way". The reality is that we're all travelers within the cities we live in and visit, we all have places we want to get, and most of us do not want to interfere with each other negatively. "pushing back" is not the way you cultivate that, and not what most pedestrians or cyclists expect.
- bane 5y agoThe mistake you are making is the same one the cyclists are making, thinking that everywhere is a cycling lane, even when it's not.
- sufehmi 5y ago"I noticed cyclists will often use the sidewalks to pass slower bikes" Yup, THIS. Right. there.