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CNN is no good. Journalists describing Joe Rogan taking horse dewormer when he had a prescription for Ivermectin is indefensible.

jazzyjackson 5y ago
I really liked his commentary on CNN calling themselves “mainstream” as opposed to supposed fringe podcasters when he has easily 10x the viewership of any program on CNN - really CNN just makes themselves more fringe by lying about ivermectin
rubyist5eva 5y ago
The entire corporate media blatantly ignoring that we've been safely giving Ivermectin to humans for decades is a total disgrace.
- sydthrowaway 5y ago
  Maybe the powers that be decided that the ends (vaxxing) justified the means?
  - rubyist5eva 5y ago
    I would prefer that Jeff Zucker and Bezos don't tell me how to live my life, especially if they are going to lie to do it.
  - fullshark 5y ago
    How are those ends working out?
- xref 5y ago
  So if instead of measles vaccine people started taking root beer, you’d want the reporting to be “humans have been safely drinking root beer for decades”?
  - rubyist5eva 5y ago
    Do we also deworm horses with root beer?
fishtacos 5y ago
CNN reported that it is a horse dewormer (which it is) and that the treatment is outright opposed by the FDA (which it is). [0] Joe Rogan is spreading misinformation and potentially VERY dangerously at that. [0]https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19 https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-shoul...
- jokethrowaway 5y ago
  Ivermectin is prescribed to humans as well. You can give aspirin to horses as well as humans, but that doesn't make it a "horse anti-inflammatory". The only reason to say something like that, is if you want to discredit someone. Now, I don't know who called the shots at CNN, wether it was some leftist middle manager, or someone higher up, but someone decided they needed to make Joe Rogan appear like a crazy lunatic taking horse medicines.
  - fishtacos 5y ago
    They didn't make him out to be a "crazy lunatic", merely dangerous in his backing of unapproved treatments. Again, the FDA itself recommends against usage of Ivermectin: https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19 https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-shoul...: "Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19" You and Mr. Rogan (and ilk) seem to be confounding the usage of Ivermectin in researched and approved treatment regimens with the opposite and claiming discrimination when pointed out. Self-treatment carries unforeseen dangers. Whether or o not Mr. Rogan is right is irrelevant - he's not a subject matter expert. It simply does not work both ways. You and I have limited reach in forums like these, but Rogan has listenership in the millions, which makes his unscrupulous statements very risky.
    - jokethrowaway 5y ago
      If I hear someone taking horse dewormer, my first impression is that they are crazy lunatics, but it could be just me. Just because the FDA doesn't recommend it, it doesn't mean it's not beneficial, it merely means they don't know yet, given clinical trials are still ongoing. It's interesting how they didn't mention the antiviral effects. Study here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7539925/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7539925/ I understand it's still early days and we don't know a lot, but this smear campaign against ivermectin and postponing molnupiravir makes me think someone higher up is more interested in selling vaccines than in finding other solutions to covid. AstraZeneca is now the largest company in the UK.
yeahforsureman 5y ago
What's this obsession with ivermectin? I'm not American, so sincerely wondering.
- jjcc 5y ago
  Not the ivermectin itself but CNN lied about the nature of the issue earlier, and when Joe Rogan point out the CNN's dishonest, Don Lemon distort the nature of their first lie (Note: this time is not the nature of the ivermectin issue) to make the first lie looks not like a lie by cherry picking the conversation and evade the key points of CNN the first lie.
- D13Fd 5y ago
  I am an American, and I still don’t get (1) why the right thinks Ivermectin is a miracle drug or (2) why the left cares.
frazbin 5y ago
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jazzyjackson 5y ago

I really liked his commentary on CNN calling themselves “mainstream” as opposed to supposed fringe podcasters when he has easily 10x the viewership of any program on CNN - really CNN just makes themselves more fringe by lying about ivermectin

rubyist5eva 5y ago

The entire corporate media blatantly ignoring that we've been safely giving Ivermectin to humans for decades is a total disgrace.

sydthrowaway 5y ago
Maybe the powers that be decided that the ends (vaxxing) justified the means?
- rubyist5eva 5y ago
  I would prefer that Jeff Zucker and Bezos don't tell me how to live my life, especially if they are going to lie to do it.
- fullshark 5y ago
  How are those ends working out?
xref 5y ago
So if instead of measles vaccine people started taking root beer, you’d want the reporting to be “humans have been safely drinking root beer for decades”?
- rubyist5eva 5y ago
  Do we also deworm horses with root beer?

fishtacos 5y ago

CNN reported that it is a horse dewormer (which it is) and that the treatment is outright opposed by the FDA (which it is). [0] Joe Rogan is spreading misinformation and potentially VERY dangerously at that. [0]https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19 https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-shoul...

jokethrowaway 5y ago
Ivermectin is prescribed to humans as well. You can give aspirin to horses as well as humans, but that doesn't make it a "horse anti-inflammatory". The only reason to say something like that, is if you want to discredit someone. Now, I don't know who called the shots at CNN, wether it was some leftist middle manager, or someone higher up, but someone decided they needed to make Joe Rogan appear like a crazy lunatic taking horse medicines.
- fishtacos 5y ago
  They didn't make him out to be a "crazy lunatic", merely dangerous in his backing of unapproved treatments. Again, the FDA itself recommends against usage of Ivermectin: https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19 https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-shoul...: "Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19" You and Mr. Rogan (and ilk) seem to be confounding the usage of Ivermectin in researched and approved treatment regimens with the opposite and claiming discrimination when pointed out. Self-treatment carries unforeseen dangers. Whether or o not Mr. Rogan is right is irrelevant - he's not a subject matter expert. It simply does not work both ways. You and I have limited reach in forums like these, but Rogan has listenership in the millions, which makes his unscrupulous statements very risky.
  - jokethrowaway 5y ago
    If I hear someone taking horse dewormer, my first impression is that they are crazy lunatics, but it could be just me. Just because the FDA doesn't recommend it, it doesn't mean it's not beneficial, it merely means they don't know yet, given clinical trials are still ongoing. It's interesting how they didn't mention the antiviral effects. Study here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7539925/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7539925/ I understand it's still early days and we don't know a lot, but this smear campaign against ivermectin and postponing molnupiravir makes me think someone higher up is more interested in selling vaccines than in finding other solutions to covid. AstraZeneca is now the largest company in the UK.

yeahforsureman 5y ago

What's this obsession with ivermectin? I'm not American, so sincerely wondering.

jjcc 5y ago
Not the ivermectin itself but CNN lied about the nature of the issue earlier, and when Joe Rogan point out the CNN's dishonest, Don Lemon distort the nature of their first lie (Note: this time is not the nature of the ivermectin issue) to make the first lie looks not like a lie by cherry picking the conversation and evade the key points of CNN the first lie.
D13Fd 5y ago
I am an American, and I still don’t get (1) why the right thinks Ivermectin is a miracle drug or (2) why the left cares.

frazbin 5y ago

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