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I think to do your taxes online in Japan you need an NFC card reader and software b that only works in Windows.

matheusmoreira 5y ago
In Brazil, we have a Java application that works on any system with a JVM. It's pretty nice. Why exclude citizens based on their choice of operating systems?
- cesarb 5y ago
  Note also that this was not always the case. Originally, it was a DOS-only application, then a Windows-only application, then for a while we had both the Windows-only application and the Java application, and then finally the Windows-only application was retired. I believe that the creation of the Java version of that application was due to complaints from Linux users, so this is AFAIK a case where citizens used to be excluded based on their choice of operating systems, and convinced the government to allow more choice. Another example is online banking in Brazil; for a while, most banks required the use of an horribly invasive "security plugin" for the browser which ran only on Windows. Nowadays, there's also a Linux version of that invasive software, so users of Linux are no longer excluded from online banking on their computers (it's not perfect because it still requires that invasive software, but it's better than before).
  - matheusmoreira 5y ago
    > the creation of the Java version of that application was due to complaints from Linux users Is this a fact? I too remember something along these lines but I wasn't sure. If that's the case, it's amazing. Those Linux users are still citizens and they pay taxes too, they absolutely deserve to be supported even if they are 0.1% of the population. The government has nor should have any profitability excuse. > for a while, most banks required the use of an horribly invasive "security plugin" for the browser Yes, the Warsaw plugin. It's even on the AUR. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/warsaw/ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/warsaw/ I HATE that thing. I tried to reverse engineer it once to see what it does and why it slows everything down so much. I caught it intercepting every single network connection. I actually switched banks to get away from this stupid software. Literally malware.

In Brazil, we have a Java application that works on any system with a JVM. It's pretty nice. Why exclude citizens based on their choice of operating systems?

cesarb 5y ago
Note also that this was not always the case. Originally, it was a DOS-only application, then a Windows-only application, then for a while we had both the Windows-only application and the Java application, and then finally the Windows-only application was retired. I believe that the creation of the Java version of that application was due to complaints from Linux users, so this is AFAIK a case where citizens used to be excluded based on their choice of operating systems, and convinced the government to allow more choice. Another example is online banking in Brazil; for a while, most banks required the use of an horribly invasive "security plugin" for the browser which ran only on Windows. Nowadays, there's also a Linux version of that invasive software, so users of Linux are no longer excluded from online banking on their computers (it's not perfect because it still requires that invasive software, but it's better than before).
- matheusmoreira 5y ago
  > the creation of the Java version of that application was due to complaints from Linux users Is this a fact? I too remember something along these lines but I wasn't sure. If that's the case, it's amazing. Those Linux users are still citizens and they pay taxes too, they absolutely deserve to be supported even if they are 0.1% of the population. The government has nor should have any profitability excuse. > for a while, most banks required the use of an horribly invasive "security plugin" for the browser Yes, the Warsaw plugin. It's even on the AUR. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/warsaw/ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/warsaw/ I HATE that thing. I tried to reverse engineer it once to see what it does and why it slows everything down so much. I caught it intercepting every single network connection. I actually switched banks to get away from this stupid software. Literally malware.