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Agreed. Lenovo has some pretty crappy stuff right now, but they still make the best laptops in the market. And let's not forget the excellent Linux support on

by zibzab 5y ago

Agreed. Lenovo has some pretty crappy stuff right now, but they still make the best laptops in the market. And let's not forget the excellent Linux support on the thinkpad line (partially thanks to Ubuntu?).

5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
> And let's not forget the excellent Linux support on the thinkpad line (partially thanks to Ubuntu?). From what I heard, mostly thanks to thankless employees at Red Hat who get these machines for work and batter them into submission (by reverse-engineering the hardware and writing device drivers). Lenovo only deserves the middle finger here. Edit: or maybe it does not. Read this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28978330 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28978330
- jwildeboer 5y ago
  Well, actually ;) That relationship has become a lot better over the years. We get early access to new hardware, Lenovo did a lot to get fwupd integrated, etc. No OEM preload necessary on the business line machines. RHEL/Fedora installs just fine OOTB. Some problems remain, especially with Thunderbolt (docking stations) but that’s not just Lenovos fault, IMHO. Disclaimer: Red Hatter since 2005
- syshum 5y ago
  I am torn... Do I thank RedHat for Linux support on laptops, or do i hate RedHat for killing CentOS....
  - 5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
    It's not a monolithic solid entity, is it? As I see it, those doing actual work deserve praise and respect (Red Hat does a lot of kernel and low-level plumbing work), while management is… typical management. Same as Mozilla and some other companies.
  - gtirloni 5y ago
    Love and hate. That's the way of the Linux wizard.
  - sam_lowry_ 5y ago
    ...for systemd, hate them for systemd!
raffraffraff 5y ago
> And let's not forget the excellent Linux support on the thinkpad line ...Unless it has an Nvidia GPU
- collegeburner 5y ago
  Fr I wish Lenovo used its position to push nvidia for better linux support and open drivers.

by zibzab 5y ago

5e92cb50239222b 5y ago

> And let's not forget the excellent Linux support on the thinkpad line (partially thanks to Ubuntu?). From what I heard, mostly thanks to thankless employees at Red Hat who get these machines for work and batter them into submission (by reverse-engineering the hardware and writing device drivers). Lenovo only deserves the middle finger here. Edit: or maybe it does not. Read this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28978330 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28978330

jwildeboer 5y ago
Well, actually ;) That relationship has become a lot better over the years. We get early access to new hardware, Lenovo did a lot to get fwupd integrated, etc. No OEM preload necessary on the business line machines. RHEL/Fedora installs just fine OOTB. Some problems remain, especially with Thunderbolt (docking stations) but that’s not just Lenovos fault, IMHO. Disclaimer: Red Hatter since 2005
syshum 5y ago
I am torn... Do I thank RedHat for Linux support on laptops, or do i hate RedHat for killing CentOS....
- 5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
  It's not a monolithic solid entity, is it? As I see it, those doing actual work deserve praise and respect (Red Hat does a lot of kernel and low-level plumbing work), while management is… typical management. Same as Mozilla and some other companies.
- gtirloni 5y ago
  Love and hate. That's the way of the Linux wizard.
- sam_lowry_ 5y ago
  ...for systemd, hate them for systemd!

raffraffraff 5y ago

> And let's not forget the excellent Linux support on the thinkpad line ...Unless it has an Nvidia GPU

collegeburner 5y ago
Fr I wish Lenovo used its position to push nvidia for better linux support and open drivers.