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Of course you die when you transport. And a new person (with the memories of the old) begins their life at the destination of transportation. Transporter = pat

Of course you die when you transport. And a new person (with the memories of the old) begins their life at the destination of transportation. Transporter = pattern recorder + vaporizer + replicator and this also how we have the different transporter gaffe episodes: * Copy in a parallel universe (the various "mirror universe" epidoes) * Replicator on both sides makes a copy (William + Thomas Riker, TNG 6x24 Second Chances) * No copy made (e.g. TNG 6x04 "Relics") * Modified copies (virus removal with biofilters) * Multiple copies > So, what happens in the transporter is “just” that you get converted into a different medium Yes, like when you are (just) vaporized by a phaser. That's the part you (just) die in. > A copy ... from the perspective of Physics, there is no reason why this should not be possible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle and it's not a "subtlety" (as the video later concedes - but why suggest that it's possible to record perfect state, in the first place?). Anyway, whether the copy is exact or not doesn't help at all with the fact that the transporter kills you. > There are various ways people have tried to make sense of this conundrum It's not a conundrum except in the sense that a TV series has a lethal transportation mechanism...

quonn 5y ago
It‘s clearly not as easy as you make it seem to be. First being a separate subject is already merely a concept. And second the idea of dying carries all kind of baggage that clearly does not exist when being transported. Like the fear of death or of not being able to continue and all of that.
- einpoklum 5y ago
  > First being a separate subject is already merely a concept. Maybe, but being vaporized by an energy discharge is not merely a concept. > And second the idea of dying carries all kind of baggage that clearly does not exist when being transported "clearly does not exist" ... in the make-up TV show which need this prop. The "no baggage" is a bit like how people in cults can commit mass suicide - believing they're not really dying, but rather being transported into heaven or something along those lines.
  - quonn 5y ago
    The difference being that the transporter (in that universe - if it were not TV series) is a fact not an unprovable possibility or even fiction you choose to believe in. So no, it‘s not like a mass suicide.

quonn 5y ago

It‘s clearly not as easy as you make it seem to be. First being a separate subject is already merely a concept. And second the idea of dying carries all kind of baggage that clearly does not exist when being transported. Like the fear of death or of not being able to continue and all of that.

einpoklum 5y ago
> First being a separate subject is already merely a concept. Maybe, but being vaporized by an energy discharge is not merely a concept. > And second the idea of dying carries all kind of baggage that clearly does not exist when being transported "clearly does not exist" ... in the make-up TV show which need this prop. The "no baggage" is a bit like how people in cults can commit mass suicide - believing they're not really dying, but rather being transported into heaven or something along those lines.
- quonn 5y ago
  The difference being that the transporter (in that universe - if it were not TV series) is a fact not an unprovable possibility or even fiction you choose to believe in. So no, it‘s not like a mass suicide.