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Its not supposed to be ground for generalisation, but it may be the discovery of interesting side-effects to learn more about: (1) "Scientists discovered that

Its not supposed to be ground for generalisation, but it may be the discovery of interesting side-effects to learn more about: (1) "Scientists discovered that the virus had destroyed endothelial cells by observing patients who died of Covid." (2) "In the first instance, it should be pointed out that the deaths observed were rare and, above all, that the damage to the brain was potentially reversible." (3) "The study shows this could be the case for patients who developed a severe form of the disease. For people who have had a more minor form of the illness, however, nothing is certain." I.e. these people died ... so selection bias is quite likely.

Someone 5y ago
As to #2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-021-00926-1 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-021-00926-1 says: “we sought to reproduce the findings in two animal models of SARS-CoV-2 infection. In hamsters infected with SARS-CoV-2, the length of string vessels increased on day 4 after infection […]. Interestingly, _the_increase_was_transient_ and normalized at later time points. A similar finding was observed in K18-hACE2 mice” ⇒ patients who are seriously ill have brain damage. If you subsequently die, you won’t recover. I read this more a (possibly tiny, possibly large; I can’t tell) contribution to the discussion on whether COVID enters the brain than about long-term damage.
- daddylongstroke 5y ago
  Yeah COVID is definitely a vascular disease and unfortunately that effects all parts of the body. It is interesting that my wife's triage line is now handling many many reports from single and double vaccinated people getting partial or full paralysis, or other serious neurological issues/syndromes within 24-36 hours post inoculation. Just when she thinks she's going to get the J&J so that she can keep her job after Dec. 8th (despite being 100% remote and already having natural immunity), she gets yet another call about serious and often unreported events from a vaccinated patient, which change her mind. It (at least the spike protein generated by vaxx) definitely seems to cross the blood-brain barrier in some people to some degree, and I believe the bio-distribution study Japanese researchers carried out demonstrated that.
  - tata71 5y ago
    How were you able to establish proof of her natural immunity, out of curiosity?
    - daddylongstroke 5y ago
      Identical method that they use post-vaccine I would hope (though I doubt your MD's office would do this to actually validate vaxx efficacy, cuz cost): Full CBC plus differential.
  - downWidOutaFite 5y ago
    Billions of people have been safely vaccinated. Tell your wife to stop trying to do epidemiology from anecdotes. And you stop spreading that misinformation on the internet.
    - daddylongstroke 5y ago
      My wife is an RN that has treated over 9K COVID or vaccine-side-effect patients in the last 1.5 years, with her team and their AI managing over 122K cases. These are higher numbers than many of the "studies" propagated by the CDC (like the Kentucky study with 730 total people) pushing VE vs. unvaxx'ed outcomes. She's not doing epidemiology, she's a front line worker that's actually seeing what's happening in their hospitals, not parroting a state line, or "doing epidemiology" from an office hundreds of miles away from the nearest COV patient. >And you stop spreading that misinformation on the internet. You got a lot of nerve (or just a total lack of sense and perspective) telling me what to do, or not to do on the internet or otherwise. This is not misinformation, this is real life experiences of a couple hundred of RNs.
    - deleted 5y ago
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  - therein 5y ago
    Your wife sounds smart. I appreciate her using her mind instead of giving into literally everyone and everything screaming at her to just get vaccinated. Incredible how so many people feel so comfortable injecting some experimental fluid into their bodies just because the authority figure and the TV-man said so. And they come in their high horses, saying "follow the science", "it is safe and effective". Making it super clear that they are just reading the titles or what the TV-man tells them the science says. Because if they had read some of that science, they'd see that it is looking as clear as day that the vaccination is causing ADE and so much more and premise of having your cells exhibit spike proteins of its own so that you can develop immunity to it is a gun that we have jumped on without actually thinking about it. But you know, it is easy to scream misinformation like others replying to post when the whole world is going to join the choir. It is SUPER COMFY being on the wrong side of history. When all the large corporations and legacy media comes in to praise you and comfort you, that's how one one knows they are on the right side of history. Right?
mensetmanusman 5y ago
“Sir, the patient has died and may never recover”

Someone 5y ago

As to #2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-021-00926-1 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-021-00926-1 says: “we sought to reproduce the findings in two animal models of SARS-CoV-2 infection. In hamsters infected with SARS-CoV-2, the length of string vessels increased on day 4 after infection […]. Interestingly, _the_increase_was_transient_ and normalized at later time points. A similar finding was observed in K18-hACE2 mice” ⇒ patients who are seriously ill have brain damage. If you subsequently die, you won’t recover. I read this more a (possibly tiny, possibly large; I can’t tell) contribution to the discussion on whether COVID enters the brain than about long-term damage.

daddylongstroke 5y ago
Yeah COVID is definitely a vascular disease and unfortunately that effects all parts of the body. It is interesting that my wife's triage line is now handling many many reports from single and double vaccinated people getting partial or full paralysis, or other serious neurological issues/syndromes within 24-36 hours post inoculation. Just when she thinks she's going to get the J&J so that she can keep her job after Dec. 8th (despite being 100% remote and already having natural immunity), she gets yet another call about serious and often unreported events from a vaccinated patient, which change her mind. It (at least the spike protein generated by vaxx) definitely seems to cross the blood-brain barrier in some people to some degree, and I believe the bio-distribution study Japanese researchers carried out demonstrated that.
- tata71 5y ago
  How were you able to establish proof of her natural immunity, out of curiosity?
  - daddylongstroke 5y ago
    Identical method that they use post-vaccine I would hope (though I doubt your MD's office would do this to actually validate vaxx efficacy, cuz cost): Full CBC plus differential.
- downWidOutaFite 5y ago
  Billions of people have been safely vaccinated. Tell your wife to stop trying to do epidemiology from anecdotes. And you stop spreading that misinformation on the internet.
  - daddylongstroke 5y ago
    My wife is an RN that has treated over 9K COVID or vaccine-side-effect patients in the last 1.5 years, with her team and their AI managing over 122K cases. These are higher numbers than many of the "studies" propagated by the CDC (like the Kentucky study with 730 total people) pushing VE vs. unvaxx'ed outcomes. She's not doing epidemiology, she's a front line worker that's actually seeing what's happening in their hospitals, not parroting a state line, or "doing epidemiology" from an office hundreds of miles away from the nearest COV patient. >And you stop spreading that misinformation on the internet. You got a lot of nerve (or just a total lack of sense and perspective) telling me what to do, or not to do on the internet or otherwise. This is not misinformation, this is real life experiences of a couple hundred of RNs.
  - deleted 5y ago
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- therein 5y ago
  Your wife sounds smart. I appreciate her using her mind instead of giving into literally everyone and everything screaming at her to just get vaccinated. Incredible how so many people feel so comfortable injecting some experimental fluid into their bodies just because the authority figure and the TV-man said so. And they come in their high horses, saying "follow the science", "it is safe and effective". Making it super clear that they are just reading the titles or what the TV-man tells them the science says. Because if they had read some of that science, they'd see that it is looking as clear as day that the vaccination is causing ADE and so much more and premise of having your cells exhibit spike proteins of its own so that you can develop immunity to it is a gun that we have jumped on without actually thinking about it. But you know, it is easy to scream misinformation like others replying to post when the whole world is going to join the choir. It is SUPER COMFY being on the wrong side of history. When all the large corporations and legacy media comes in to praise you and comfort you, that's how one one knows they are on the right side of history. Right?

mensetmanusman 5y ago

“Sir, the patient has died and may never recover”