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Lavabit is really the key reference here, no reason to point to revolutions, that goes a bit far. But instead of providing the government with user data Proton
by onli 5y ago
Lavabit is really the key reference here, no reason to point to revolutions, that goes a bit far. But instead of providing the government with user data Proton had the option to stop operating the compromised email service, or if necessary to fold the company. That is what was necessary to do in this situation. Instead the caved to the (now clear to be illegal!) government request and ratted out their user. That's unacceptable for this kind of service.
Also, iirc, the problem with Proton is that they did not only hand over the data, they collected the data in advance to later possibly hand them over. That would be a systemic failure.
- southerntofu 5y ago> no reason to point to revolutions I did not exactly mention revolution, but that's an important topic. The government needs to keep tabs on everyone because they're unjust and therefore fear the mob. The only way to deal with this problem entirely is not via legal/technical means but via a global revolution that does away with "government" entirely. > they collected the data in advance to later possibly hand them over. My understanding (from previous reads) is that they had to enable IP logging precisely for this user that was targeted. If they had just done nothing, there would have been no data to give away or seize.