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And help your parents, brothers and sisters, neighbors, uncles and aunts to do the same. And set DDG as the default browser. I can't imagine why anyone here o
by tdrdt 5y ago
And help your parents, brothers and sisters, neighbors, uncles and aunts to do the same.
And set DDG as the default browser.
I can't imagine why anyone here on HN still would use Chrome.
- Mikeb85 5y ago> I can't imagine why anyone here on HN still would use Chrome. I do. It's the only option for watching Netflix/Amazon Prime/Disney+ on Linux AND casting to a Chromecast.
- nchi3 5y agoNo one's saying you can't have Chrome installed. It's really no big deal to open it when you want to watch any of those. I've never heard anyone complaining about switching from your phone's browser to the Netflix app on your phone, so I don't see why opening another browser on your computer is a big deal.
- Mikeb85 5y agoSo what's the use case for having Firefox installed at all if Chrome is installed? What can Firefox do that Chrome can't?
- vord1080 5y agoContainer tabs. Good text rendering. Support for some niche css features, the WebExtension implementation can support more advanced extensions (sidebar, runtime theme modification, dns, etc). shift+right click to bypass websites that block context menus. if a website uses the background-image css property, the firefox context menu will have the correct image options and chrome won't. i can hold ctrl and properly select HTML tables to paste into spreadsheets.
- TobTobXX 5y agoFirefox can provide a browsing experience that isn't designed by Google.
- nchi3 5y agoDoes anyone here only have a single browser installed on their computer? I always install Chrome, but do less than 0.1% of my browsing in it. What's the reason you couldn't have both? Storage? What you gain from using something other than Chrome is privacy, and using something other than Chromium makes it harder for Google to gain more control of the internet. That being said, I find both Firefox and Safari to be better experiences than Chrome.
- Kiro 5y agoI do. AMA.
- tdrdt 5y agoDon't you care about an open internet?
- wayneftw 5y agoIf you really believe that Mozilla is out there protecting anything and not just collecting a paycheck - I've got a bridge to sell you. Chrome does everything I want right now. The minute it doesn't I'll use Brave. Oh and before you say something like "Google has complete control over every Chromium fork" stop right there because you're wrong. Brave is already not implementing Manifest v3. Both Edge and Brave replaced all dependence on Google services. Chrome is also only ~5 million lines of code. It's not impossible to maintain.
- vord1080 5y agoChromium is more like ~35 million lines of code. And Brave is implementing Manifest V3, there's no choice in the matter. They'll be forced to because they rely on Google's Chrome Web Store (and chromium itself), which will stop accepting MV2 submissions in 2022. Their current claim is that they'll support the blocking webRequest functionality from MV2, that's it. You better hope Google doesn't block submission of MV3 extensions that use MV2 APIs that only work in forks.
- wayneftw 5y ago> Chromium is more like ~35 million lines of code. Incorrect. It's ~5 million [0] > And Brave is implementing Manifest V3. Incomplete. Brave already announced that they're leaving the webRequest API intact. [1] > You better hope Google doesn't block submissions... Have ya heard of a thing called installing software? You can easily install extensions without clinging to a walled garden. Brave makes this easier than Chrome. Nothing said here has proved that Google has complete control over anything. Anyway enjoy using Firefox I guess? And you'd better hope that other web devs start to test with Firefox because most of them, including me, won't bother for the piddly amount of market share they still have. [0] https://www.quora.com/How-many-lines-of-code-is-Google-Chrome https://www.quora.com/How-many-lines-of-code-is-Google-Chrom... [1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/opera-brave-vivaldi-to-ignore-chromes-anti-ad-blocker-changes-despite-shared-codebase/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/opera-brave-vivaldi-to-ignore-...
- throwaway829 5y agoBrave Browser, based on Chrome, is another alternative that'll let you keep all your Chrome extensions. Makes the move away from Chrome painless.
- malepoon 5y agoBrave and Edge are better than Chrome if you care about privacy, but 99% of the code base is still controlled by Google and they don't really have a voice in standards committees. To support the open web it's much better to have engine diversity too.
- throwaway473825 5y agoIn which way does Edge have better privacy than Chrome? The following articles rate Edge as worse than Chrome: https://www.expressvpn.com/blog/best-browsers-for-privacy/ https://www.expressvpn.com/blog/best-browsers-for-privacy/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/a-professor-says-edge-is-the-worst-for-privacy-microsoft-isnt-happy/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/a-professor-says-edge-is-the-w...
- syberiyxx 5y agoWhere is your source for edge not being privacy invasive? Everything I’ve read (apart from comments like yours) says it is worse than chrome. https://www.zdnet.com/article/brave-deemed-most-private-browser-in-terms-of-phoning-home/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/brave-deemed-most-private-brow...
- vord1080 5y agoIf I'm trying to get away from Google, why should I switch to a Chromium derivative that also depends on the Chrome Web Store for add-on distribution?
- the_duke 5y agoMicrosoft and Brave both run ad networks. They are trapped in the same perverted incentives. Same thing for Apple. Firefox is the only one that doesn't. Then again, Mozilla only survives thanks to Google for sending search traffic their way.
- aloer 5y agoI do Because when the tab bar is full Firefox will overflow them while chrome will resize every tab until only an icon is left and then start the overflow. If there is an extension to fix this I’ll switch but last I looked I couldn’t find any
- vord1080 5y agoYou can change when the overflow scrolling starts by setting browser.tabs.tabMinWidth to 50 (or any number you want, the unit is pixels) in about:config
- rPlayer6554 5y ago> help your parents, brothers and sisters, neighbors, uncles and aunts to do the same. One sec let me try to explain how to do this to my grandma who is currently x thousand miles away. Oh yea and if something breaks good thing I'm there for tech support amirite.
- d3nj4l 5y ago??? Why does you grandma care about when tabs start overflowing? I assure you, your Grandma isn't GGP and will happily accept what the browser does.
- bacchusracine 5y ago>Why does you grandma care about when tabs start overflowing? Oh she doesn't. The issue Grandma, Uncle Fat, Cousin Lou all have is they used this thing and started getting used to it and then they got an update and someone changed everything and they don't know how to do anything anymore. Repeat this three or more times and when you tell them to use something they smile at you and nod then stick with Chrome because it's something they know how to use and doesn't change all the time.
- passivate 5y ago
- gowthamgts12 5y agowell in case of developer tools chrome beats firefox. that's the only reason me and some of my friends are still using chrome for development.
- createunderrate 5y agoShout out to Vivaldi browser. Great for customizability and features like vertical tabs and stuff. A browser designed for power users.
- BiteCode_dev 5y agoVivaldi is webkit/blink based though.
- foobiekr 5y agoSecurity. Whenever I push myself to go use Firefox I very rapidly run into obvious bugs and things like page display corruption that has the terrible bad code smell of shoddy insecure software. I would really, really like to switch, but not for now.
- cyberpsybin 5y agoNice try Google marketing dept.
- nchi3 5y agoCan you give an example? I've been using both Safari (personal laptop) and Firefox (work laptop) for years, and I've never noticed anything like that.
- vord1080 5y agoThat's unfortunate, you should try updating your GPU drivers (if you're on linux there's some different things you need to change). Firefox uses the GPU for more stuff so bad drivers really heck it up.
- foobiekr 5y agoThis is on the iPhone.