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Get Firefox now, install uBlock Origin, and live with the minor pains.
by tgv 5y ago
Get Firefox now, install uBlock Origin, and live with the minor pains.
- matheusmoreira 5y agoYes!! I install uBlock Origin on every computer and browser I come across. People love it.
- vord1080 5y agoSeconded. Firefox is better than ever. Can't believe there isn't a Chromium derivative with multi-select, table selection, and shift+right click. Containers are also incredibly useful.
- bobthepanda 5y agoI just want tree tabs. Vertical tabs is so much more space efficient than horizontal.
- d3nj4l 5y agoIf you want a chromium skin with vertical tabs, both Edge and Vivaldi offer them built into the browser.
- patall 5y agoAs does Firefox with the tree-style tabs extension.
- BiteCode_dev 5y agoUnfortunalty it requires manual css entry to hide the horizontal tabs.
- ajvs 5y agoVertical tabs are not tree style tabs, the latter is far more flexible.
- d3nj4l 5y agoDefinitely, but GGP did mention vertical specifically :)
- skohan 5y agoI don't use containers because they require a mozilla account
- prox 5y agoPretty sure they don’t. I use them all the time, no account.
- vord1080 5y agoThey don't? I've gone as far as disabling all account functionality with about:config and am using containers right now.
- skohan 5y agoOk maybe it changed or maybe I misunderstood something. I wanted to try this a year or so ago and that was the impression I got.
- black_puppydog 5y agoOMG I just learned about multi-selection of tabs. This is great. :D
- dorgo 5y agouse cases? It has at least one drawback. In the past there was an option to reload all tabs ( because every couple weeks Firefox starts begging to be restarted and after restart all tabs are blank ). Now you have to select all, reload, and not forget to de-select. If you forget and hit Ctrl+W you close all tabs.
- black_puppydog 5y agowell yeah, multiple tab management is my use case, what else? :P Your pain points are real, but incidentally not relevant to me. Since I've been using FF nightly fulltime for a while I restart the browser (with session restore of course) quite regularly, mostly every day. And I have the option enabled to confirm when closing multiple tab. Mostly because I sometimes hit Ctrl-Q by accident. Because conveniently, the "nuke everything" shortcut is situated right between the two most used shortcuts: Ctrl-W and Ctrl-Tab... :| So yeah, I happen to not be affected by this particular problem :P
- tdrdt 5y agoAnd help your parents, brothers and sisters, neighbors, uncles and aunts to do the same. And set DDG as the default browser. I can't imagine why anyone here on HN still would use Chrome.
- Mikeb85 5y ago> I can't imagine why anyone here on HN still would use Chrome. I do. It's the only option for watching Netflix/Amazon Prime/Disney+ on Linux AND casting to a Chromecast.
- nchi3 5y agoNo one's saying you can't have Chrome installed. It's really no big deal to open it when you want to watch any of those. I've never heard anyone complaining about switching from your phone's browser to the Netflix app on your phone, so I don't see why opening another browser on your computer is a big deal.
- Mikeb85 5y agoSo what's the use case for having Firefox installed at all if Chrome is installed? What can Firefox do that Chrome can't?
- vord1080 5y agoContainer tabs. Good text rendering. Support for some niche css features, the WebExtension implementation can support more advanced extensions (sidebar, runtime theme modification, dns, etc). shift+right click to bypass websites that block context menus. if a website uses the background-image css property, the firefox context menu will have the correct image options and chrome won't. i can hold ctrl and properly select HTML tables to paste into spreadsheets.
- TobTobXX 5y agoFirefox can provide a browsing experience that isn't designed by Google.
- dadarecit 5y agoThe bulk of financial support Mozilla gets comes from Google, they stopped being a real competitor in the browser scene years ago. You don't really have a choice when it comes to modern web browsers, maybe Safari is the "safest" / most privacy-aware choice you can make assuming you already bought into the Apple ecosystem. What else is there, the crypto-mining scam that is Brave or the ProGaming WebBrowser / Chinese backdoor aka Opera? But really, you're better off using something avangard that some nerd came up with during the weekend. At least these hobbiests' browsers can be trusted to be not be evil & greedy.
- prox 5y agoIf the market share wasn’t 3 percent, it would be less so.
- vord1080 5y agoThe marketshare on desktop is more like 8%, up to 60% depending on the country.
- dadarecit 5y agowdym
- prox 5y agoSay Mozilla’s market share was 25, it wasn’t necessary to be beholden to Google.
- dadarecit 5y agoOf course, but that's not the reality. The reality is that Google have positioned Firefox as a "viable competition" while having them mostly under control. Can you trust Mozilla as an organization, when you know that it receives over 80% of its funding from Google?
- shreyshnaccount 5y ago
- laurent92 5y agoWhat’s annoying with Firefox is how much it advertises. Seriously, every time you start it, it opens one or even two tabs saying why Firefox loves you and protects you. It introduces nagging on the new tab page to tell you how much Firefox loves and protects you. It installs Pocket or has shortcuts to help you buy products that love and protect you. Firefox also insists that you should create a Mozilla account and upload all your passwords over. Because they are so kind and protecting about your privacy. Mozilla also fires people who donate to Christian charities for the beliefs they have (and yes, abortion is a belief, whichever side you are). Even if you are the founder of JS. Hear that: Mozilla fires people who are technically good, for political motivations. It’s as dystopian as it gets. They never apologized. Mozilla is as dystopian as Google, and the worst evil usually sits with people who believe they are the good guys. In fact, they are sponsored by Google and share the same political slant.
- vord1080 5y agoI was curious if this is true, so I created a new profile. The first two tabs were the normal onboarding and the privacy policy. When I opened a new tab I did get the silly news feed so I clicked the gear icon in the top right and turned it off. I haven't seen any nagging to create an account yet after mucking around with the UI. And honest question, what's your idea for monetizing Firefox? They're pushing subscription based products to reduce the reliance on Google money and adding different avenues for sponsorships that aren't from Google. Sounds like a plan to me. Also Brendan Eich had strong support within Mozilla. If I had to guess, he resigned because of external pressure. (remember OkCupid putting a banner on their service protesting Eich, that was wacky)
- eloisius 5y agoI wouldn’t say it’s pain at all. Containers are a killer feature and I can’t imagine going back to a browser that doesn’t let me have isolated browser tabs in the same window.