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> To me it's terrifying that Presidential actions are now being dictated by SEO concerns, but it is interesting. Does this really surprise you? - The opposing

> To me it's terrifying that Presidential actions are now being dictated by SEO concerns, but it is interesting. Does this really surprise you? - The opposing parties leadership is censored more than every authoritarian around the world. - stories about Biden’s son is censored - bad stories about Biden are censored - every person connected to the opposing party is being “investigated” - the DOJ literally sent out a statement saying they were going to investigate parents going to school boards as “domestic terrorists” (at worst, these are local crimes, if at all) - anyone who has claimed election interference on the 2020 election has been threatened with lawsuits, lost jobs, etc - a majority of the opposition media figures are censored - no one could attend the inauguration even What does this all have in common? They want the opposition to have no voice and theirs to be the only one you see. They try to intimidate and censor such that they have the only voice. “Let’s go Brandon” was too hard to censor, so they’re now doing this. Remove, rewrite, repeat The reason I say that is now opposition content is removed, they can put out their content.

_kbh_ 5y ago
I'd like to see evidence for a lot of these claims that come from reliable sources cause I don't think the majority of them are true. > - anyone who has claimed election interference on the 2020 election has been threatened with lawsuits, lost jobs, etc I feel this is an especially interesting claim because the only people i've seen get hit with law suits for this have continually defamed specific companies and not just someone shouting in the street that it was fraudulent.
- downandout 5y ago
  I think you'd be pretty hard pressed to argue that the Hunter Biden stories weren't suppressed until after the election. Those stories and corresponding evidence were around before the election. They were completely buried wherever possible, and dismissed as conspiracy theories by the mainstream media when they couldn't bury them. It was only after the election that they were forced to admit that the Hunter Biden stories were factual.
  - pstuart 5y ago
    What is your concern? Nepotism? Do you have any such concern for the conduct of the children of the previous president? HN is not the place for this. Save this for reddit or facebook.
    - ycombigator 5y ago
      Surely it's selling presidential favours? The whole Hunter art work stuff is ridiculously dubious... And yes, equal concern for any president. Trump largely cared mostly about stuffing his pockets full of money.
      - wernercd 5y ago
        "trump largely cared" and biden gets a cut from his family making millions on his name while he destroys America.. how is he not about "stuffing his pockets"?
        pstuart 5y ago
        I missed the part where America got destroyed by this. Could you clue me in?
        wernercd 5y ago
        * Afghanistan pull out: Disaster. Many Americans STILL trapped in Afghanistan while Biden looks like cornholio on national TV https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56255613 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56255613 * 100+ days of crisis at the border. No law and order. No enforcement of law. Massive crisis that didn't exist on Jan 5th. https://apnews.com/article/business-economy-prices-inflation-producer-prices-fe20d58f22a9780ec188a85a4a88cff0 https://apnews.com/article/business-economy-prices-inflation... * Massive inflation under way. Unseen failure from the top * Supply chain collapsing by corruption, shit laws and mandates https://gallagher.house.gov/media/press-releases/gallagher-why-our-government-covering-ccp-wuhan https://gallagher.house.gov/media/press-releases/gallagher-w... * Fauci has been undeniably shown the liar we all knew he was before. Corrupt POS with funding lies and experimentation on animals. https://reason.com/2021/10/06/ag-merrick-garland-fbi-critical-race-theory-parents-schools-domestic-terrorists/ https://reason.com/2021/10/06/ag-merrick-garland-fbi-critica... * FBI ignores violence across America and instead goes after "domestic terrorists"... aka parents who don't blindly obey the gestapo tactics. I could go on about the number of scandals, corruption and dumpster fire issues... but the collapsing poll numbers and cries of Lets Go Brandon speak it more than I ever could. And I didn't say America was destroyed... I said Biden was in the process of destroying - and the above scandals as a starting point... they show an inept or corrupt plan that is in effect destroying America as we speak. Lets Go Brandon.
- twofornone 5y ago
  >I'd like to see evidence for a lot of these claims that come from reliable sources cause I don't think the majority of them are true. This is effectively a disingenuous argument when the evidence clearly suggests that so called "reliable sources" are colluding to suppress content that is inconvenient for their political leanings. Incidentally it also ensures that all of wikipedia leans left, since any outlets which run counter to leftist politics are rejected as unreliable by definition. It's a dishonest, preemptive dismissal of any alternative perspective and it is absolutely toxic to national discourse. In practice you are relying on a circular argument, wherein the self proclaimed arbiters of truth have also defined themselves, and only themselves, as "reliable sources".
  - crazy_horse 5y ago
    What evidence suggests that the entire party is being investigated? Who is hiding that?
  - _kbh_ 5y ago
    The reason I say reliable is not because I only want sources from one specific side or that say one specific thing. But because there are plenty of sources who are willing to say anything to please a specific party or person which is the exact reason some people are being sued into the ground.
    - tekknik 5y ago
      That’s literally what you were just accused of doing. Demanding a source that supports your claim by negating his. The left controls the internet, and has for a while. Hence the right starts new sites where the left doesn’t have control.
      - _kbh_ 5y ago
        The right seems to generally start news sites that peddle in a lot of either half truths or outright falsities. Given this can you blame me for wanting a _reliable_ source.
- MichaelMoser123 5y ago
  "Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept over ‘censorship’ of Hunter Biden article " https://nypost.com/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-quits-the-intercept-over-hunter-biden-article/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-quits-the-inte... "Glenn Greenwald Says CIA Duped Media About Hunter Biden Story " https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/glenn-greenwald-says-cia-duped-media-about-hunter-biden-story/ar-BB1bPZvG https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/glenn-greenwald-says...
downandout 5y ago
It's only surprising in that they have, to this point, largely shrugged off criticism. Jenn Psaki, for example, has been extremely dismissive of any criticism whatsoever. Now, I think they are realizing that the (white)house is on fire, and it appears that they feel like they have to respond and cannot dismiss/gaslight their way out of it.
- pstuart 5y ago
  So your concern is nepotism, right? Or is it tribal politics?
crazy_horse 5y ago
This is gross. It's gross because you're right, there are a lot of things that politcians get a pass on. That's not okay. But you are making ridiculous absurd statements. No, not everyone in the other part is getting investigated. No, not anyone who claimed interference is getting threatened. How would that be possible if up until the last week (and going well into the future), we're discussing this stuff? This absurd hyperbole ruins whatever valid points you have because you look like the kind of commenter that HN was supposedly above, but for some reason dang decided to bump this explicitly political bs (with the expected political comments) to the front page. We didn't even try to get a better source than fox news? If you care about this stuff (and you should), you need to disconnect it from political stuff. You're jumping in bed with people that lie.
- iammisc 5y ago
  > You're jumping in bed with people that lie. Not the OC, but this is quite the claim considering you're doing exactly the same thing

_kbh_ 5y ago

I'd like to see evidence for a lot of these claims that come from reliable sources cause I don't think the majority of them are true. > - anyone who has claimed election interference on the 2020 election has been threatened with lawsuits, lost jobs, etc I feel this is an especially interesting claim because the only people i've seen get hit with law suits for this have continually defamed specific companies and not just someone shouting in the street that it was fraudulent.

downandout 5y ago
I think you'd be pretty hard pressed to argue that the Hunter Biden stories weren't suppressed until after the election. Those stories and corresponding evidence were around before the election. They were completely buried wherever possible, and dismissed as conspiracy theories by the mainstream media when they couldn't bury them. It was only after the election that they were forced to admit that the Hunter Biden stories were factual.
- pstuart 5y ago
  What is your concern? Nepotism? Do you have any such concern for the conduct of the children of the previous president? HN is not the place for this. Save this for reddit or facebook.
  - ycombigator 5y ago
    Surely it's selling presidential favours? The whole Hunter art work stuff is ridiculously dubious... And yes, equal concern for any president. Trump largely cared mostly about stuffing his pockets full of money.
    - wernercd 5y ago
      "trump largely cared" and biden gets a cut from his family making millions on his name while he destroys America.. how is he not about "stuffing his pockets"?
      - pstuart 5y ago
        I missed the part where America got destroyed by this. Could you clue me in?
        wernercd 5y ago
        * Afghanistan pull out: Disaster. Many Americans STILL trapped in Afghanistan while Biden looks like cornholio on national TV https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56255613 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56255613 * 100+ days of crisis at the border. No law and order. No enforcement of law. Massive crisis that didn't exist on Jan 5th. https://apnews.com/article/business-economy-prices-inflation-producer-prices-fe20d58f22a9780ec188a85a4a88cff0 https://apnews.com/article/business-economy-prices-inflation... * Massive inflation under way. Unseen failure from the top * Supply chain collapsing by corruption, shit laws and mandates https://gallagher.house.gov/media/press-releases/gallagher-why-our-government-covering-ccp-wuhan https://gallagher.house.gov/media/press-releases/gallagher-w... * Fauci has been undeniably shown the liar we all knew he was before. Corrupt POS with funding lies and experimentation on animals. https://reason.com/2021/10/06/ag-merrick-garland-fbi-critical-race-theory-parents-schools-domestic-terrorists/ https://reason.com/2021/10/06/ag-merrick-garland-fbi-critica... * FBI ignores violence across America and instead goes after "domestic terrorists"... aka parents who don't blindly obey the gestapo tactics. I could go on about the number of scandals, corruption and dumpster fire issues... but the collapsing poll numbers and cries of Lets Go Brandon speak it more than I ever could. And I didn't say America was destroyed... I said Biden was in the process of destroying - and the above scandals as a starting point... they show an inept or corrupt plan that is in effect destroying America as we speak. Lets Go Brandon.
twofornone 5y ago
>I'd like to see evidence for a lot of these claims that come from reliable sources cause I don't think the majority of them are true. This is effectively a disingenuous argument when the evidence clearly suggests that so called "reliable sources" are colluding to suppress content that is inconvenient for their political leanings. Incidentally it also ensures that all of wikipedia leans left, since any outlets which run counter to leftist politics are rejected as unreliable by definition. It's a dishonest, preemptive dismissal of any alternative perspective and it is absolutely toxic to national discourse. In practice you are relying on a circular argument, wherein the self proclaimed arbiters of truth have also defined themselves, and only themselves, as "reliable sources".
- crazy_horse 5y ago
  What evidence suggests that the entire party is being investigated? Who is hiding that?
- _kbh_ 5y ago
  The reason I say reliable is not because I only want sources from one specific side or that say one specific thing. But because there are plenty of sources who are willing to say anything to please a specific party or person which is the exact reason some people are being sued into the ground.
  - tekknik 5y ago
    That’s literally what you were just accused of doing. Demanding a source that supports your claim by negating his. The left controls the internet, and has for a while. Hence the right starts new sites where the left doesn’t have control.
    - _kbh_ 5y ago
      The right seems to generally start news sites that peddle in a lot of either half truths or outright falsities. Given this can you blame me for wanting a _reliable_ source.
MichaelMoser123 5y ago
"Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept over ‘censorship’ of Hunter Biden article " https://nypost.com/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-quits-the-intercept-over-hunter-biden-article/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-quits-the-inte... "Glenn Greenwald Says CIA Duped Media About Hunter Biden Story " https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/glenn-greenwald-says-cia-duped-media-about-hunter-biden-story/ar-BB1bPZvG https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/glenn-greenwald-says...

downandout 5y ago

It's only surprising in that they have, to this point, largely shrugged off criticism. Jenn Psaki, for example, has been extremely dismissive of any criticism whatsoever. Now, I think they are realizing that the (white)house is on fire, and it appears that they feel like they have to respond and cannot dismiss/gaslight their way out of it.

pstuart 5y ago
So your concern is nepotism, right? Or is it tribal politics?

crazy_horse 5y ago

This is gross. It's gross because you're right, there are a lot of things that politcians get a pass on. That's not okay. But you are making ridiculous absurd statements. No, not everyone in the other part is getting investigated. No, not anyone who claimed interference is getting threatened. How would that be possible if up until the last week (and going well into the future), we're discussing this stuff? This absurd hyperbole ruins whatever valid points you have because you look like the kind of commenter that HN was supposedly above, but for some reason dang decided to bump this explicitly political bs (with the expected political comments) to the front page. We didn't even try to get a better source than fox news? If you care about this stuff (and you should), you need to disconnect it from political stuff. You're jumping in bed with people that lie.

iammisc 5y ago
> You're jumping in bed with people that lie. Not the OC, but this is quite the claim considering you're doing exactly the same thing