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According to the Stack Overflow developer survey, Visual Studio is still the second most-used IDE by professionals. Granted, SO has a very strong .NET community

According to the Stack Overflow developer survey, Visual Studio is still the second most-used IDE by professionals. Granted, SO has a very strong .NET community so there may be some bias.

saghm 5y ago
IDE specifically, or editor in general? The former wouldn't really surprise me since most of the editors I see friends and coworkers using aren't really IDEs per se; I mostly see people using VS Code, Vim, Sublime, and maybe emacs occasionally. The only IDEs people I know ever talk about using besides VS are Jetbrains products and I guess Xcode for iOS dev.
- tomnipotent 5y ago
  https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#section-most-popular-technologies-integrated-development-environment https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#section-most-...
  - ComputerGuru 5y ago
    Wow, (n)vim is just behind at 30% - I didn’t realize it was that high!
    - blackoil 5y ago
      This is not just for primary editor. So if I use VSCode as primary, IntelliJ for Java development and vim for server side/small file changes, I'll be counted in all 3.
- int_19h 5y ago
  VS Code has integrated builds, testing, and debugging. I would argue that, by any sensible definition of IDE, it's an IDE.
  - saghm 5y ago
    I think it's possible to customize it to be an IDE in some cases, but at least for some languages, it's not one out of the box. I have no idea how most people use it, but it doesn't seem obvious to me that all or most users would necessarily use it as and consider it an IDE.
    - int_19h 5y ago
      Well, out of the box, it really only supports JavaScript and TypeScript - and those two are at the level I'd consider to be an IDE (i.e. with debugging etc). Any other language requires an extension. But most major language extensions also provide a full suite of IDE services. Although sometimes that is spread across several different extensions - as with e.g. Java - but in that case, there's usually also an extension pack that gives you the unified experience.
    - tomnipotent 5y ago
      > it's not one out of the box Then by that definition there are no IDE's.
jpgvm 5y ago
HN has a comparatively weak representation of C# and Visual Studio users (and "enterprise"/"big company" programmers as whole) so there is some inherent bias here against VS also.

According to the Stack Overflow developer survey, Visual Studio is still the second most-used IDE by professionals. Granted, SO has a very strong .NET community so there may be some bias.

saghm 5y ago

IDE specifically, or editor in general? The former wouldn't really surprise me since most of the editors I see friends and coworkers using aren't really IDEs per se; I mostly see people using VS Code, Vim, Sublime, and maybe emacs occasionally. The only IDEs people I know ever talk about using besides VS are Jetbrains products and I guess Xcode for iOS dev.

tomnipotent 5y ago
https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#section-most-popular-technologies-integrated-development-environment https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#section-most-...
- ComputerGuru 5y ago
  Wow, (n)vim is just behind at 30% - I didn’t realize it was that high!
  - blackoil 5y ago
    This is not just for primary editor. So if I use VSCode as primary, IntelliJ for Java development and vim for server side/small file changes, I'll be counted in all 3.
int_19h 5y ago
VS Code has integrated builds, testing, and debugging. I would argue that, by any sensible definition of IDE, it's an IDE.
- saghm 5y ago
  I think it's possible to customize it to be an IDE in some cases, but at least for some languages, it's not one out of the box. I have no idea how most people use it, but it doesn't seem obvious to me that all or most users would necessarily use it as and consider it an IDE.
  - int_19h 5y ago
    Well, out of the box, it really only supports JavaScript and TypeScript - and those two are at the level I'd consider to be an IDE (i.e. with debugging etc). Any other language requires an extension. But most major language extensions also provide a full suite of IDE services. Although sometimes that is spread across several different extensions - as with e.g. Java - but in that case, there's usually also an extension pack that gives you the unified experience.
  - tomnipotent 5y ago
    > it's not one out of the box Then by that definition there are no IDE's.

jpgvm 5y ago

HN has a comparatively weak representation of C# and Visual Studio users (and "enterprise"/"big company" programmers as whole) so there is some inherent bias here against VS also.