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Not at the margin, no. If you can solve a problem by clicking a button, why the hell would you spend more time doing it any other way? Some sort of principle? S

by jolux 5y ago

Not at the margin, no. If you can solve a problem by clicking a button, why the hell would you spend more time doing it any other way? Some sort of principle? Seems poorly justified.

yissp 5y ago
It should still be possible to solve the problem manually, though. Inevitably someone will run into some special case where clicking the button doesn't work and more control is needed.
- jolux 5y ago
  Arguments that more powerful tools should exist are not arguments that having a button for things is bad. It would be better if more things were just buttons.
kovac 5y ago
If they know how that btn click solves the problem, then that's fine. But if they are an engineer and they don't know what the btn does, then they aren't really an engineer in that sense. While that btn click may help them solve that problem, knowing how that works is important to motivate solutions for other problems that are analogous to it which is the job of an engineer. If they're an enduser, btn click is exactly what they should use. If they are an engineer, and clicking btns is all they know, then they are going to be a very limited engineer. This too is fine and there is a place for that. But, if such an engineer starts to think that they are a great engineer because they solve all the problems quickly whenever there are btns, they are going to be a liability for teams when there aren't any btns to click. Because they are going to be too arrogant to listen to those who might know how to solve them which aren't necessarily btn clicks (because to them all solutions must be btn clicks). You see, it's more than a matter of principle. It's about the calibre of the engineer you want to produce.
- jolux 5y ago
  This is a whole chain of assumptions not rooted in anything I said. I'm not saying you don't need to learn anything. I'm saying there's no sense in making trivial tasks harder than they need to be. Of course you need to understand how to fix problems when there isn't a button to click. That doesn't mean more buttons to fix things is bad.

by jolux 5y ago

Not at the margin, no. If you can solve a problem by clicking a button, why the hell would you spend more time doing it any other way? Some sort of principle? Seems poorly justified.

yissp 5y ago

It should still be possible to solve the problem manually, though. Inevitably someone will run into some special case where clicking the button doesn't work and more control is needed.

jolux 5y ago
Arguments that more powerful tools should exist are not arguments that having a button for things is bad. It would be better if more things were just buttons.

kovac 5y ago

If they know how that btn click solves the problem, then that's fine. But if they are an engineer and they don't know what the btn does, then they aren't really an engineer in that sense. While that btn click may help them solve that problem, knowing how that works is important to motivate solutions for other problems that are analogous to it which is the job of an engineer. If they're an enduser, btn click is exactly what they should use. If they are an engineer, and clicking btns is all they know, then they are going to be a very limited engineer. This too is fine and there is a place for that. But, if such an engineer starts to think that they are a great engineer because they solve all the problems quickly whenever there are btns, they are going to be a liability for teams when there aren't any btns to click. Because they are going to be too arrogant to listen to those who might know how to solve them which aren't necessarily btn clicks (because to them all solutions must be btn clicks). You see, it's more than a matter of principle. It's about the calibre of the engineer you want to produce.

jolux 5y ago
This is a whole chain of assumptions not rooted in anything I said. I'm not saying you don't need to learn anything. I'm saying there's no sense in making trivial tasks harder than they need to be. Of course you need to understand how to fix problems when there isn't a button to click. That doesn't mean more buttons to fix things is bad.