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Italy is at 80% and they still see the need to ban unvaccinated people from places. New Zealand is planning to ban unvaccinated people form places after we reac

Italy is at 80% and they still see the need to ban unvaccinated people from places. New Zealand is planning to ban unvaccinated people form places after we reach 90% of over-12-year-olds. So even with a massive 80% vaccinated, the vaccine doesn't stop the spread. Maybe it would at 90%? 95%? Who knows. In New Zealand, the unvaccinated are largely the indigenous Maori, not stereotypical anti-vaxxers.

hackflip 5y ago
The media really wants to paint the average antivaxxer as white rednecks, when white people are among the most heavily vaccinated demographics.
- exporectomy 5y ago
  Yep. Same applies to shootings. I've recently changed my ethnicity in an effort to gain some of the special privileges that come with it.
u801e 5y ago
Herd immunity from measles requires at least 95% of the population vaccinated. For polio, it's 80%.
- loonster 5y ago
  Herd immunity only requires a certain percentage of the population to be immune. It doesn't matter how the immunity is acquired. Given enough time, all populations will eventually attain herd immunity.
veb 5y ago
I think you'd find that Māori are doing OK. Better than Pacific Islanders. But yes, there's hard-to-reach people in every ethnicity. What I've enjoyed is the orgs who are vaccinating Māori and Pacific Islanders - always tell the community to come along even if you don't fit in either ethnicity, you'll still get a jab. I just love that. It's the way it should be! We're all people, let's look after each other.
- exporectomy 5y ago
  In contrast to Whānau Waipareira which tried to exclude non-Maori by using a password to restrict access to vaccines? https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/09/act-leader-david-seymour-faces-backlash-over-post-suggesting-use-of-m-ori-code-to-get-covid-19-vaccine-without-booking.html https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/09/act-leader-d...
  - veb 5y ago
    My experience is with South Island, so primarily Ngāi Tahu and others. The one you linked is total crap, I agree.

hackflip 5y ago

The media really wants to paint the average antivaxxer as white rednecks, when white people are among the most heavily vaccinated demographics.

exporectomy 5y ago
Yep. Same applies to shootings. I've recently changed my ethnicity in an effort to gain some of the special privileges that come with it.

u801e 5y ago

Herd immunity from measles requires at least 95% of the population vaccinated. For polio, it's 80%.

loonster 5y ago
Herd immunity only requires a certain percentage of the population to be immune. It doesn't matter how the immunity is acquired. Given enough time, all populations will eventually attain herd immunity.

veb 5y ago

I think you'd find that Māori are doing OK. Better than Pacific Islanders. But yes, there's hard-to-reach people in every ethnicity. What I've enjoyed is the orgs who are vaccinating Māori and Pacific Islanders - always tell the community to come along even if you don't fit in either ethnicity, you'll still get a jab. I just love that. It's the way it should be! We're all people, let's look after each other.

exporectomy 5y ago
In contrast to Whānau Waipareira which tried to exclude non-Maori by using a password to restrict access to vaccines? https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/09/act-leader-david-seymour-faces-backlash-over-post-suggesting-use-of-m-ori-code-to-get-covid-19-vaccine-without-booking.html https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/09/act-leader-d...
- veb 5y ago
  My experience is with South Island, so primarily Ngāi Tahu and others. The one you linked is total crap, I agree.