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Something is wrong when the king needs to censor the jester.
by pmurt7 5y ago
Something is wrong when the king needs to censor the jester.
- silverspoonin 5y agoOh, was not aware that youtube was part of the federal government.
- cema 5y agoIt is not part of any government, but if it does work on its behest we need to ask questions.
- quotemstr 5y agoYou can't properly understand something if you can't question it. When you elevate any idea to unquestionable capital-T Truth, you blind yourself to the actual truth. You break the only mechanism we've ever discovered for figuring out how the world actually works. Censorship of anything is the enemy of human progress and always has been.
- Cycl0ps 5y agoI can agree with you, but the issue is that this isn't an academic discussion on the merits of thorough vaccine trials. Here's the third verse: "Let’s go, Brandon, we know he cappin’ Patriots out in the street takin’ action Huntin’ us down for speakin’ the truth (Huh) Beat down the PEDO, let’s save all the youth (Uh huh) Media lyin’, ignore all the cryin’ They buildin’ back better, but only the Taliban (What?) Pilots on strike, but to Joe, it’s irrelevant Open the border, lose all the order Divide us up so they know what we never win But we united, we here in the stadiums (Let’s go) Everyone chantin’ it, CNN slanderin’ (Let’s go) Biden collaspin’ and Democrats stealin’ it (Facts) Ayy, we look at Joe, can we get a refund? (Brandon) How ‘bout some mean tweets? (Facts) Joe is a crook, and he knows how to decieve F.J.B. is the motto in these streets, let’s go, Brandon sing it with me" I see a lot of claims but no questions. This wasn't written to question, it was written to enforce ideas already held by the listener. I agree that the song shouldn't be censored, but I also think it doesn't have any right to be promoted or distributed by third parties. YouTube has as much of a right to take the song down as Sound Cloud has to leave it up, which is exactly equal to any venue that chooses to let him perform on stage.
- TechBro8615 5y agoYouTube certainly has that right, but they enforce it at the risk of losing any credibility on claims of impartiality or “holding free speech as a core value,” like their CEO bragged about last month. But yes, I totally agree – the song “Fuck Donald Trump” has been on YouTube for 5+ years with millions of views, and YouTube has every right to take it down.
- atleta 5y ago[flagged]
- DrJones1098 5y agoWell established scientific concensus. If you're referring to anything related to Covid there's no well-established scientific consensus it literally just happened around year and a half ago it's impossible to have scientific consensus. Even the most respected scientists are saying they don't know about a lot of things related to covid. also well-established scientific consensus is not an ideal goal post . Galileo was excommunicated. Labotomies won the Nobel prize. Nothing is certain in life when human beings are involved no matter how comforting that thought is. There is only a narrative of certainty.
- KittenInABox 5y ago> also well-established scientific consensus is not an ideal goal post Genuinely asking, how should I evaluate truth in a subject matter that I myself don't have a doctorate in if the standard of "what is general consensus among the people with doctorates in the subject" isn't reasonable?
- Zuider 5y agoWhat evidence is there that a general consensus on a thesis indicates that it is necessarily true? Is it rational simply to accept a consensus, effectively taking something on faith?
- silverspoonin 5y agoThat was not an answer to his question, and I am really curious for an answer to it because I think it's a valid and reasonable point. Also, as to whether believing scientific general consensus should count as "faith" or not, I invite you to read Issac Asimov's short essay "The Relativity of Wrong".
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- jes 5y agoI heard a good definition of what it means to be rational the other day. If I remember correctly it was a simple as being open to error correction. Perhaps this is a statement by David Deutsch, I don’t remember right now. But I like the definition very much. If you can’t communicate how are you going to do error correction?
- fabianhjr 5y agoI don't understand the allegories to feudalism when jesters who crossed a line weren't censored but executed. (I would guess specially if they expressed or supported any sort of anti-monarchy or anti-their-monarchs viewpoints)
- nullc 5y agoI believe banishment was a much more common punishment in feudal kingdoms than execution.
- fabianhjr 5y agoApparently some jesters were used as messengers during campaigns / sieges and if the recipient didn't like the message they would be trebucheted back to whomever sent them.
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- nyolfen 5y agomaybe peasant is a better allegory; he works the lord's lands solely at the lord's discretion, keeps a tiny share of what is produced and is ejected at will
- sharklazer 5y agoActually, it was a chief job of the jester to cross the line when other members of the court could not. Jesters, as all court members, had a natural fear of execution, but probably not any higher than any of the other courtiers.
- gremloni 5y agoHe had a slightly different line, but got executed if he crossed that one.
- gremloni 5y agoThe jester is basically spreading hate speech and harmful misinformation. There limits to iTs juST a pRAnk
- hiram112 5y ago> hate speech and harmful misinformation Both undefinable terms that are increasingly being used anytime the current Western establishment wishes to censor speech and silence their opponents. When the Chinese or Russians do it, we call it out for what it is: censorship and abuse of power. It's even more insidious when it's done in supposedly free societies, because we wrap it up in a bow with these nebulous terms and feign noble intentions.
- furgooswft13 5y ago> It's even more insidious when it's done in supposedly free societies, because we wrap it up in a bow with these nebulous terms and feign noble intentions. Yea they do that in China too. The Chinese have a particular knack IMO for flowery language that covers for various government shenanigans. Most censorship in China also takes place at whims of private enterprise, just like in the west. When China is criticizing the US they call our abuses exactly what they are, while equivocating their own. Nothing new under the sun.
- JakeAl 5y agoThere's no such thing as hate speech, only free speech and speech you like or don't like.
- gremloni 5y agoThere’s literally laws defining hate speech.
- mardifoufs 5y agoIn the US? Go ahead, list them?
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