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People vaccinated against Covid less likely to die from any cause, study finds

12 points by pax 5y ago

gigglesupstairs 5y ago
“Part of this is probably because people who get vaccinated tend to be healthier than people who don't, the researchers noted.”
slater 5y ago
It's true. We're immortal!
- iab 5y ago
  Not sure about you, but I definitely have morals
NoPie 5y ago
Or people who chose to get vaccinated are generally more cautious and think more about their health and may be even more careful drivers etc., therefore they would die less often from traffic accidents compared to irresponsible drunk drivers who didn't bother to get vaccine. It is so hard to distinguish cause from effect in these studies.
- robocat 5y ago
  They tried to control for that by choosing a control group that got a different vaccination: “The team studied 6.4 million people who had been vaccinated against Covid-19 and compared them to 4.6 million people who had received flu shots in recent years but who had not been vaccinated against coronavirus. They filtered out anyone who had died from Covid-19 or after a recent positive coronavirus test.”
  - yongjik 5y ago
    Well, of course! Flu shots were never politicized to the stupid degree covid vaccines are politicized, so the covid-vaxxer(?) group will show a clear political leaning that's different from flu-vaxxers. One can expect all sort of fun correlations. (I assume nobody is crazy enough to think that a covid vaccine will statistically protect them from, say, a drunk driver.)
Andys 5y ago
This elucidates one potentially strong source of bias in vaccination studies. The first to line up for voluntary vaccination are likely healthier and higher in socioeconomic status.
charbonneau2 5y ago
You perform an observational study, not adjusted for "baseline health status, underlying conditions, health care utilization, and socioeconomic status". You get a 3.2x difference in mortality. Still, you decide to publish it. Great job!
ohiovr 5y ago
Two legged animal will believe anything. -Alardyce T. Merriwether
anramon 5y ago
This is beyond stupid.

12 points by pax 5y ago

“Part of this is probably because people who get vaccinated tend to be healthier than people who don't, the researchers noted.”

slater 5y ago

It's true. We're immortal!

iab 5y ago
Not sure about you, but I definitely have morals

NoPie 5y ago

Or people who chose to get vaccinated are generally more cautious and think more about their health and may be even more careful drivers etc., therefore they would die less often from traffic accidents compared to irresponsible drunk drivers who didn't bother to get vaccine. It is so hard to distinguish cause from effect in these studies.

robocat 5y ago
They tried to control for that by choosing a control group that got a different vaccination: “The team studied 6.4 million people who had been vaccinated against Covid-19 and compared them to 4.6 million people who had received flu shots in recent years but who had not been vaccinated against coronavirus. They filtered out anyone who had died from Covid-19 or after a recent positive coronavirus test.”
- yongjik 5y ago
  Well, of course! Flu shots were never politicized to the stupid degree covid vaccines are politicized, so the covid-vaxxer(?) group will show a clear political leaning that's different from flu-vaxxers. One can expect all sort of fun correlations. (I assume nobody is crazy enough to think that a covid vaccine will statistically protect them from, say, a drunk driver.)

Andys 5y ago

This elucidates one potentially strong source of bias in vaccination studies. The first to line up for voluntary vaccination are likely healthier and higher in socioeconomic status.

charbonneau2 5y ago

You perform an observational study, not adjusted for "baseline health status, underlying conditions, health care utilization, and socioeconomic status". You get a 3.2x difference in mortality. Still, you decide to publish it. Great job!

ohiovr 5y ago

Two legged animal will believe anything. -Alardyce T. Merriwether

anramon 5y ago

This is beyond stupid.