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Setting up a local dev env is easier than ever on Windows. WSL, tooling, the new terminal, it's all there.

by meibo 5y ago

frozenport 5y ago
It was always easy, just install vs code
MathCodeLove 5y ago
Even easier than that: git bash and docker.
skohan 5y ago
Just wait until you try linux
- kovac 5y ago
  I started off with Windows development. Later on I developed using Windows terminal and WSL. I've also done development on Mac. Then one fine day I tried Linux. It blew my mind. What is coming to Windows now is a pale imitation of what Linux has been having for decades. Amazing terminals, terminal multiplexers, tiling window managers, keyboard driven tools, package managers... I really regret those years lost.
- jaaron 5y ago
  Ok, this comment had me actually laughing out loud. That said, the situation with W10+WSL reminds me a bit of the early days around OS X when we suddenly had a consumer grade desktop Unix experience. W10+WSL is clunkier, but trending in a decent direction.
  - alfiedotwtf 5y ago
    With Windows 11 turning people off because it's forcing TPM-only hardware for both developers and users in general, I wouldn't be surprised if Windows 11 marks the final exodus for developers leaving for Mac and Linux.
    - y4mi 5y ago
      You seem to think that devs are even able to decide what os they use... Most corps I worked at had a specific setup I was required to use, which was generally windows.
      - alfiedotwtf 5y ago
        If a big corp wants devs to start building for Windows 11, they're going to have to replace all/most machines given TPM 2 is kind of new. It's further down the lock-in road, and if big corps want those handcuffs, good luck to them.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Specially anything X-Windows related, pure easy. /s
  - watermelon0 5y ago
    I think Windows/WSL2 might just be the most user friendly Linux distribution, and this includes graphics support, if you are on Win 11.
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      For people like myself, that care mostly about UNIX/POSIX than Linux in particular, had Microsoft been serious about the NT POSIX subsystem, most likely Linux wouldn't have taken off as it did. I still think macOS is the most user friendly UNIX, though. As for WSL, I really don't care about it, I have been using VMWare with Linux distributions for about 10 years now.
      - topkai22 5y ago
        I’ll disagree with you- Linux very much took off because it’s license is cost free and there was/is an influential FLOSS software philosophical movement.
        pjmlp 5y ago
        Sure that is why people buy macs instead of supporting Linux OEMs, and are everywhere to be seen at FOSDEM. Where are those philosophers? I would like to know where would Linux be without Intel, Compaq, IBM and Oracle's money that started being pumped around 2000. Even Wikipedia mentions it.
- coldtea 5y ago
  Tried that for decades, why do you think I'm not macOS and Windows now?
  - app4soft 5y ago
    Because you not tried Haiku yet.
29athrowaway 5y ago
Paying to digitally imprison yourself, your family and descendents for years to come is easier than ever.
amenod 5y ago
It might be easier than ever, but it is far easier on Linux. It shows that people developing terminal(s) on Windows are probably not Linux users - it is little things like secondary clipboard and terminals hanging that make one want to scream.

Setting up a local dev env is easier than ever on Windows. WSL, tooling, the new terminal, it's all there.

by meibo 5y ago

Setting up a local dev env is easier than ever on Windows. WSL, tooling, the new terminal, it's all there.

frozenport 5y ago

It was always easy, just install vs code

MathCodeLove 5y ago

Even easier than that: git bash and docker.

skohan 5y ago

Just wait until you try linux

kovac 5y ago
I started off with Windows development. Later on I developed using Windows terminal and WSL. I've also done development on Mac. Then one fine day I tried Linux. It blew my mind. What is coming to Windows now is a pale imitation of what Linux has been having for decades. Amazing terminals, terminal multiplexers, tiling window managers, keyboard driven tools, package managers... I really regret those years lost.
jaaron 5y ago
Ok, this comment had me actually laughing out loud. That said, the situation with W10+WSL reminds me a bit of the early days around OS X when we suddenly had a consumer grade desktop Unix experience. W10+WSL is clunkier, but trending in a decent direction.
- alfiedotwtf 5y ago
  With Windows 11 turning people off because it's forcing TPM-only hardware for both developers and users in general, I wouldn't be surprised if Windows 11 marks the final exodus for developers leaving for Mac and Linux.
  - y4mi 5y ago
    You seem to think that devs are even able to decide what os they use... Most corps I worked at had a specific setup I was required to use, which was generally windows.
    - alfiedotwtf 5y ago
      If a big corp wants devs to start building for Windows 11, they're going to have to replace all/most machines given TPM 2 is kind of new. It's further down the lock-in road, and if big corps want those handcuffs, good luck to them.
pjmlp 5y ago
Specially anything X-Windows related, pure easy. /s
- watermelon0 5y ago
  I think Windows/WSL2 might just be the most user friendly Linux distribution, and this includes graphics support, if you are on Win 11.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    For people like myself, that care mostly about UNIX/POSIX than Linux in particular, had Microsoft been serious about the NT POSIX subsystem, most likely Linux wouldn't have taken off as it did. I still think macOS is the most user friendly UNIX, though. As for WSL, I really don't care about it, I have been using VMWare with Linux distributions for about 10 years now.
    - topkai22 5y ago
      I’ll disagree with you- Linux very much took off because it’s license is cost free and there was/is an influential FLOSS software philosophical movement.
      - pjmlp 5y ago
        Sure that is why people buy macs instead of supporting Linux OEMs, and are everywhere to be seen at FOSDEM. Where are those philosophers? I would like to know where would Linux be without Intel, Compaq, IBM and Oracle's money that started being pumped around 2000. Even Wikipedia mentions it.
coldtea 5y ago
Tried that for decades, why do you think I'm not macOS and Windows now?
- app4soft 5y ago
  Because you not tried Haiku yet.

29athrowaway 5y ago

Paying to digitally imprison yourself, your family and descendents for years to come is easier than ever.

amenod 5y ago

It might be easier than ever, but it is far easier on Linux. It shows that people developing terminal(s) on Windows are probably not Linux users - it is little things like secondary clipboard and terminals hanging that make one want to scream.