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Unfortunately there are extensions & features that (last I checked) only work in VSCode but not VSCodium. 'Remote Development' extension was the one I found out

by rychco 5y ago

Unfortunately there are extensions & features that (last I checked) only work in VSCode but not VSCodium. 'Remote Development' extension was the one I found out was apparently closed source.

johannes1234321 5y ago
That one is based on "proper" VisualStudio's remote development features, so it originated from a closed source product. Having observed that multiple times, I assume that open sourcing it is a major effort as this probably includes some third party code or patent licenses or something which prevent open sourcing. At least I don't see the business case Microsoft would play there in keeping it closed but freely available. But who knows. And: That aside the role Microsoft nowadays plays in the open source world is reason for concern, while their current actions are mostly positive.
- hackerfromthefu 5y ago
  The business case is a combination of Discretionary Pricing, and Moat - those are the business school names for the strategies you can look up if you like.. The Discretionary pricing comes in the Tiers, while the Moat is provided by VS Code reducing the chance of real competition against Tier 1 or 2. The removal of hot reload from VS Code is to provide differentiation between Tier 2 & 3, to drive customers to paid versions. -- Tier 1 .. Visual Studio Enterprise - expensive Tier 2 .. Visual Studio - low medium cost for a business Tier 3 .. Visual Studio Code - 'free' in exchange for your info (via telemetry) and reduces the chance of a truly open competitor challenging the above tiers. This one must walk a line between being less useful than above tiers so there's value to buy them, while being more useful than other 'free' competition in the short term so they attract mindshare away from other OSS that might otherwise grow to challenge the higher Tiers

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Unfortunately there are extensions & features that (last I checked) only work in VSCode but not VSCodium. 'Remote Development' extension was the one I found out

by rychco 5y ago

Unfortunately there are extensions & features that (last I checked) only work in VSCode but not VSCodium. 'Remote Development' extension was the one I found out was apparently closed source.

johannes1234321 5y ago
That one is based on "proper" VisualStudio's remote development features, so it originated from a closed source product. Having observed that multiple times, I assume that open sourcing it is a major effort as this probably includes some third party code or patent licenses or something which prevent open sourcing. At least I don't see the business case Microsoft would play there in keeping it closed but freely available. But who knows. And: That aside the role Microsoft nowadays plays in the open source world is reason for concern, while their current actions are mostly positive.
- hackerfromthefu 5y ago
  The business case is a combination of Discretionary Pricing, and Moat - those are the business school names for the strategies you can look up if you like.. The Discretionary pricing comes in the Tiers, while the Moat is provided by VS Code reducing the chance of real competition against Tier 1 or 2. The removal of hot reload from VS Code is to provide differentiation between Tier 2 & 3, to drive customers to paid versions. -- Tier 1 .. Visual Studio Enterprise - expensive Tier 2 .. Visual Studio - low medium cost for a business Tier 3 .. Visual Studio Code - 'free' in exchange for your info (via telemetry) and reduces the chance of a truly open competitor challenging the above tiers. This one must walk a line between being less useful than above tiers so there's value to buy them, while being more useful than other 'free' competition in the short term so they attract mindshare away from other OSS that might otherwise grow to challenge the higher Tiers