The sad part is the "idea guys" are generally too lazy to even learn a little basics of programming to converse with the ones building their idea. Anyone can c

The sad part is the "idea guys" are generally too lazy to even learn a little basics of programming to converse with the ones building their idea. Anyone can come up with ideas; there's no degree in ideas. Most of us got into programming/engineering fields because we ourselves 'have ideas', but sought out the education to build them. It's very frustrating to work with others who can't directly contribute to the deliverable. It leads to burn out. I personally will never work with another team who haven't all been up until 4am crushing out code.