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They don't reliably stop you from contracting it, they don't reliably stop you from spreading it, they don't reliably stop symptoms. They are "mildly effective"
by _dain_ 5y ago
They don't reliably stop you from contracting it, they don't reliably stop you from spreading it, they don't reliably stop symptoms. They are "mildly effective" by any reasonable comparison to any decent pre-existing vaccine (no, the flu vaccine doesn't count). And they are getting less effective by the day. Already we are hearing talk of third, fourth, fifth booster shots -- for a vaccine that is less than a year old. Have you ever heard of such a thing before, for any other shot?
As for 700k deaths -- yes, 700k mostly old, mostly already unhealthy deaths in a country of 320 million people, tallied across two years. This is not a civilization-ending plague. Moreover, almost all of the at-risk demographic already has been vaccinated. So if they are as effective as you imply, what is the justification for forcing it on everyone else? You cannot simultaneously claim that they are so effective, and at the same time that everyone must be vaccinated in order to protect the at-risk people who are themselves already vaccinated. It is a deranged contradiction.
- bryanlarsen 5y ago2.7% of the population is immunocompromised. That's who the vaccine mandates are protecting. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/871290 https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/871290 As the father two premature children who were highly immunocompromised for the first 6 months of their life or so, this is a very personal issue.
- _dain_ 5y agoThat immunocompromised portion of the population are not going to be protected either way. Did you not read what I said? The vaccine does not prevent transmission! Herd immunity will not happen with such a leaky vaccine.
- bryanlarsen 5y agoThe vaccine doesn't have to prevent transmission for herd immunity to occur. It just has to push the R-value for spread under 1. And it does that very effectively. It's not particular effective at preventing breakthrough infections from spreading the disease, but it is quite effective at preventing infection in the first place.
- raverbashing 5y ago> They don't reliably stop you from contracting it, they don't reliably stop you from spreading it, they don't reliably stop symptoms. You might want to look up the actual efficiencies of common vaccines (and how many iterations did it take to get them to that point) > Have you ever heard of such a thing before, for any other shot? A vaccine that was proven to be reasonably effective and with minor side effects in only one year? It's the result of several decades of innovation. Or do you think every previous vaccine was perfect?