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It means prioritizing working over one's non-work life, i.e., ignoring the "balance" in "work-life balance" in favor of doing work for someone else.

by sidlls 5y ago

ZephyrBlu 5y ago
> ignoring the "balance" in "work-life balance" Is the balance not a personal choice? If I consciously choose to have a 90-10 work-life balance, why is that detrimental?
- sidlls 5y ago
  No, it's not really a personal choice the way you mean--which essentially makes "balance" have no meaning. It's detrimental because it's unhealthy for you (c.f. consciously choosing to smoke tobacco products) and it's also unhealthy for your peers--because your employers will always prefer the person who devotes himself to service of the employer over balanced individuals who don't, forcing them to adjust toward the unhealthy end.
  - ZephyrBlu 5y ago
    > which essentially makes "balance" have no meaning Only to you. Someone else may feel that 90-10 is a good balance for them at that particular time. > It's detrimental because it's unhealthy for you Working a lot isn't inherently unhealthy. You can be physically and mentally healthy while working a lot. > forcing them to adjust toward the unhealthy end Only if they want to keep up. I don't think about working more as "service of [my] employer", it's about faster personal growth. I don't expect other people to also work more, but I'm also not going to slow down for them.
- klyrs 5y ago
  If you're also among the folks getting mad about those of us who don't work outside of work hours, then it's not a precisely a personal choice. But, benefit of the doubt: When I was in university, I did the 90/10 thing. When I graduated, I lost almost my entire social network. I don't want you, or the people I work with, to experience that. Non-work hobbies make you a whole person, more pleasant to be around, more interesting to talk to. Please don't spend the prime years of your life pulling for somebody else's dream.
  - ZephyrBlu 5y ago
    I'm not mad, I just found this a bit odd: "I expect all of my coworkers to be protective of their work-life balance and I'm dismayed whenever I see them prioritize work in a detrimental way" I'm keenly aware of the effects of working all the time and that I'm in my "prime", even moreso because I'm remote. On the other hand, I wouldn't be working a lot if I didn't enjoy it and think I was gaining something valuable from it. Being in my "prime" also means it's a great time to learn and grow because everything compounds. Btw I'm not working 90% of the time, that was just an extreme example.
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It means prioritizing working over one's non-work life, i.e., ignoring the "balance" in "work-life balance" in favor of doing work for someone else.

by sidlls 5y ago

It means prioritizing working over one's non-work life, i.e., ignoring the "balance" in "work-life balance" in favor of doing work for someone else.

ZephyrBlu 5y ago

> ignoring the "balance" in "work-life balance" Is the balance not a personal choice? If I consciously choose to have a 90-10 work-life balance, why is that detrimental?

sidlls 5y ago
No, it's not really a personal choice the way you mean--which essentially makes "balance" have no meaning. It's detrimental because it's unhealthy for you (c.f. consciously choosing to smoke tobacco products) and it's also unhealthy for your peers--because your employers will always prefer the person who devotes himself to service of the employer over balanced individuals who don't, forcing them to adjust toward the unhealthy end.
- ZephyrBlu 5y ago
  > which essentially makes "balance" have no meaning Only to you. Someone else may feel that 90-10 is a good balance for them at that particular time. > It's detrimental because it's unhealthy for you Working a lot isn't inherently unhealthy. You can be physically and mentally healthy while working a lot. > forcing them to adjust toward the unhealthy end Only if they want to keep up. I don't think about working more as "service of [my] employer", it's about faster personal growth. I don't expect other people to also work more, but I'm also not going to slow down for them.
klyrs 5y ago
If you're also among the folks getting mad about those of us who don't work outside of work hours, then it's not a precisely a personal choice. But, benefit of the doubt: When I was in university, I did the 90/10 thing. When I graduated, I lost almost my entire social network. I don't want you, or the people I work with, to experience that. Non-work hobbies make you a whole person, more pleasant to be around, more interesting to talk to. Please don't spend the prime years of your life pulling for somebody else's dream.
- ZephyrBlu 5y ago
  I'm not mad, I just found this a bit odd: "I expect all of my coworkers to be protective of their work-life balance and I'm dismayed whenever I see them prioritize work in a detrimental way" I'm keenly aware of the effects of working all the time and that I'm in my "prime", even moreso because I'm remote. On the other hand, I wouldn't be working a lot if I didn't enjoy it and think I was gaining something valuable from it. Being in my "prime" also means it's a great time to learn and grow because everything compounds. Btw I'm not working 90% of the time, that was just an extreme example.
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