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The biggest findings in this thread are (for me) these two: - gTrade and Bernanke program - WhatsApp backups not encrypted on Drive

capableweb 5y ago
> - WhatsApp backups not encrypted on Drive Hasn't this been clear since long time ago? For as long as I can remember, the message on the backup screen for Whatsapp on iOS has said that backups are not encrypted.
- jerrygoyal 5y ago
  I don't remember it was the case on Android at least.
  - capableweb 5y ago
    Here are two articles with screenshots that show both times that the statement existed there too: - 2017 - https://www.recovery-android.com/back-up-restore-whatsapp-messages.html https://www.recovery-android.com/back-up-restore-whatsapp-me... - 2020 - https://www.androidcentral.com/how-restore-your-whatsapp-chats-iphone-android https://www.androidcentral.com/how-restore-your-whatsapp-cha...
- im3w1l 5y ago
  It's not been secret but hardly common knowledge either.
  - capableweb 5y ago
    I'm not sure what more you can ask for than Whatsapp putting a descriptive text about encryption not being applied if use the export functionality, right next to the button to enable export functionality.
    - im3w1l 5y ago
      I didn't ask for anything. I just don't think most people know.
      - ehsankia 5y ago
        This is similar to the Incognito lawsuit. When you open an Incognito tab, there's clear and explicit text telling you exactly how it works and what it does/doesn't do, but now people are trying to sue because they can't read. The export button explicitly says the backup is not encrypted by Whatsapp's E2E encryption. How is it Google's fault if users can't read basic warnings? Again, as GP asked, what more could they have done here?
dancingqueen 5y ago
Funny there is no way to understand what project Bernanke does from the complaint doc. My guess is that it was included in the complaint doc for the name and picture of helicopter Ben, because if it ever goes to trial it will turn out to be on par with the "orwellian" point 34.

capableweb 5y ago

> - WhatsApp backups not encrypted on Drive Hasn't this been clear since long time ago? For as long as I can remember, the message on the backup screen for Whatsapp on iOS has said that backups are not encrypted.

jerrygoyal 5y ago
I don't remember it was the case on Android at least.
- capableweb 5y ago
  Here are two articles with screenshots that show both times that the statement existed there too: - 2017 - https://www.recovery-android.com/back-up-restore-whatsapp-messages.html https://www.recovery-android.com/back-up-restore-whatsapp-me... - 2020 - https://www.androidcentral.com/how-restore-your-whatsapp-chats-iphone-android https://www.androidcentral.com/how-restore-your-whatsapp-cha...
im3w1l 5y ago
It's not been secret but hardly common knowledge either.
- capableweb 5y ago
  I'm not sure what more you can ask for than Whatsapp putting a descriptive text about encryption not being applied if use the export functionality, right next to the button to enable export functionality.
  - im3w1l 5y ago
    I didn't ask for anything. I just don't think most people know.
    - ehsankia 5y ago
      This is similar to the Incognito lawsuit. When you open an Incognito tab, there's clear and explicit text telling you exactly how it works and what it does/doesn't do, but now people are trying to sue because they can't read. The export button explicitly says the backup is not encrypted by Whatsapp's E2E encryption. How is it Google's fault if users can't read basic warnings? Again, as GP asked, what more could they have done here?

dancingqueen 5y ago

Funny there is no way to understand what project Bernanke does from the complaint doc. My guess is that it was included in the complaint doc for the name and picture of helicopter Ben, because if it ever goes to trial it will turn out to be on par with the "orwellian" point 34.