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> you're not even the person I was replying So, this is normal on HN. > So it started as "battery swap stations will never happen" but now it's having a whing

> you're not even the person I was replying So, this is normal on HN. > So it started as "battery swap stations will never happen" but now it's having a whinge that they're not more widely used What are you even talking about? Nobody accept you is "whinging" about anything. The fact is 99% of EV companies have decided against battery swapping. What does that tell you?

clouddrover 5y ago
It tells me that you're not very knowledgeable about EVs and you don't know what you're talking about. Here's another company rolling out battery swap stations: https://insideevs.com/news/537787/geely-battery-swapping-stations-2025/ https://insideevs.com/news/537787/geely-battery-swapping-sta... But I would like to be entertained by some more whining from you. Here's a company rolling out wireless charging support: https://insideevs.com/news/538850/genesis-gv60-wireless-charging-option/ https://insideevs.com/news/538850/genesis-gv60-wireless-char... Complain about that next.
- panick21 5y ago
  Tesla alone adds 3500 new stations (each with avg. 8 chargers) per QUARTER. And that will continue to grow. And that is outside of many companies doing such network. But yeah 5000 stations in 2025 maybe, how amazing. I know understanding scale is hard. And the government is subsidizing it in China as well. When they stop some car makers there will also stop. Wireless charging is a waste of energy, and literally a horrible thing for climate change.
  - clouddrover 5y ago
    You certainly didn't disappoint. > Tesla alone adds 3500 new stations (each with avg. 8 chargers) per QUARTER. Tesla has been building them for nine years and still hasn't reached 3,500 stations: https://supercharge.info/charts https://supercharge.info/charts > I know understanding scale is hard. That's called irony. > Wireless charging is a waste of energy, and literally a horrible thing for climate change. EV wireless charging is 94% efficient, grid to battery: https://www.sae.org/news/2020/10/new-sae-wireless-charging-standard-is-ev-game-changer https://www.sae.org/news/2020/10/new-sae-wireless-charging-s... It's as I said. You don't know what you're talking about. I think you must spend too much time consuming social media influencer "content". They don't know what they're talking about either. It's like mental junk food.
    - panick21 5y ago
      > Tesla has been building them for nine years and still hasn't reached 3,500 stations: I misread, still 288 a Qarter and that is growing. Compared to 500 in 4 years. These stations have more threw put then any individual swapping station. Literally nothing you said changes anything about my argument. Tesla is just one company, the simply fact is, battery swapping is a tiny niche and you can deflect as long as you want, its a simple fact. > 94% efficient Even 0.1% less efficiency would be a gigantic amount when you consider that we are talking about charging 1-2 billion cars.
      - clouddrover 5y ago
        > Literally nothing you said changes anything about my argument. Son, you have made no arguments. You have only made a fool of yourself.
        panick21 5y ago
        I have stated a fact, battery swapping is a niche and it will continue to be a niche. You attempts to claim this is not the case have been pathetic. P.S: Calling people 'son' in a technical discussion is pathetic.
        clouddrover 5y ago
        Nope, appropriate and accurate. There's no need to dig a deeper hole for yourself, kid.

clouddrover 5y ago

It tells me that you're not very knowledgeable about EVs and you don't know what you're talking about. Here's another company rolling out battery swap stations: https://insideevs.com/news/537787/geely-battery-swapping-stations-2025/ https://insideevs.com/news/537787/geely-battery-swapping-sta... But I would like to be entertained by some more whining from you. Here's a company rolling out wireless charging support: https://insideevs.com/news/538850/genesis-gv60-wireless-charging-option/ https://insideevs.com/news/538850/genesis-gv60-wireless-char... Complain about that next.

panick21 5y ago
Tesla alone adds 3500 new stations (each with avg. 8 chargers) per QUARTER. And that will continue to grow. And that is outside of many companies doing such network. But yeah 5000 stations in 2025 maybe, how amazing. I know understanding scale is hard. And the government is subsidizing it in China as well. When they stop some car makers there will also stop. Wireless charging is a waste of energy, and literally a horrible thing for climate change.
- clouddrover 5y ago
  You certainly didn't disappoint. > Tesla alone adds 3500 new stations (each with avg. 8 chargers) per QUARTER. Tesla has been building them for nine years and still hasn't reached 3,500 stations: https://supercharge.info/charts https://supercharge.info/charts > I know understanding scale is hard. That's called irony. > Wireless charging is a waste of energy, and literally a horrible thing for climate change. EV wireless charging is 94% efficient, grid to battery: https://www.sae.org/news/2020/10/new-sae-wireless-charging-standard-is-ev-game-changer https://www.sae.org/news/2020/10/new-sae-wireless-charging-s... It's as I said. You don't know what you're talking about. I think you must spend too much time consuming social media influencer "content". They don't know what they're talking about either. It's like mental junk food.
  - panick21 5y ago
    > Tesla has been building them for nine years and still hasn't reached 3,500 stations: I misread, still 288 a Qarter and that is growing. Compared to 500 in 4 years. These stations have more threw put then any individual swapping station. Literally nothing you said changes anything about my argument. Tesla is just one company, the simply fact is, battery swapping is a tiny niche and you can deflect as long as you want, its a simple fact. > 94% efficient Even 0.1% less efficiency would be a gigantic amount when you consider that we are talking about charging 1-2 billion cars.
    - clouddrover 5y ago
      > Literally nothing you said changes anything about my argument. Son, you have made no arguments. You have only made a fool of yourself.
      - panick21 5y ago
        I have stated a fact, battery swapping is a niche and it will continue to be a niche. You attempts to claim this is not the case have been pathetic. P.S: Calling people 'son' in a technical discussion is pathetic.
        clouddrover 5y ago
        Nope, appropriate and accurate. There's no need to dig a deeper hole for yourself, kid.