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> Dr. Gebru was fired for having approached a lawyer about workplace issues. That is just very dishonest. She gave an ultimatum. Execs accepted the ultimatum.
by ergocoder 5y ago
> Dr. Gebru was fired for having approached a lawyer about workplace issues.
That is just very dishonest. She gave an ultimatum. Execs accepted the ultimatum. You are gaslighting other people on this topic. At the very least, you should've acknowledged that this is up to an interpretation.
Regardless whether she was fired or quit, she was toxic as hell. She dragged Jeff Dean into an unrelated matter in public and implied Jeff Dean supported personal attack.
https://twitter.com/timnitGebru/status/1278569638532530177 https://twitter.com/timnitGebru/status/1278569638532530177 -- this happened a few months before she left or was fired from google
If a direct report did this to me, I would've wanted them to leave. In this case, Gebru wanted to leave (according to her ultimatum). Jeff Dean wanted her to leave (I don't doubt this. nobody wanted to work with a colleage who attacked them on twitter). I see a happy ending for both.
Gebru and her supporters have been dishonest about the whole thing.
- choppaface 5y agoThe email about the lawyers is months before the “ultimatum.” The reason Dr Gebru’s case is so divisive in tech (especially in this thread) is because so many are agnostic or ignorant of the role of ethics in tech; and almost every employee is ignorant of how Legal/HR execute retaliation. Anthony Levandowski is a literal criminal and yet is still enjoying tens of millions of dollars of Google’s money. Same with Andy Rubin. Even Michael Church is rich. If one percent of the energy spent fighting Dr Gebru was put into fighting the real scumbags in tech… you’d have something more like Google before it got greedy with scale.
- Buge 5y agoIs there any reason to think Michael Church earned more than Dr. Gebru? Michael Church only worked at Google for 6 months, so I would guess none of his stock vested.
- dilyevsky 5y agoCan you explain why you think dragging a low level IC who worked at the company less than year over 10 years ago and afaik never really did anyone any harm into this is appropriate?
- ergocoder 5y agoWhat does this have to do with attack Jeff Dean personally on twitter? Please note that this was months before she left. The 3 names you mentioned have nothing to do with Jeff Dean. Handling those 3 people has nothing to do with supporting Gebru or Jeff Dean. This has nothing to do with Gebru being a toxic person.