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You can look up SPECint2017 for AMD and Apple chips. Sure, AMD has to clock higher to do it but the end result is they are still ahead with their year old 7nm c
by trynumber9 5y ago
You can look up SPECint2017 for AMD and Apple chips. Sure, AMD has to clock higher to do it but the end result is they are still ahead with their year old 7nm chips in both 1T and MT.
- mlindner 5y agoPlease mention a low power chip that AMD makes that's competitive with an apple chip at similar power levels. Apple hasn't released it's high power chips yet at 5nm. They've only released chips in the very low power laptop range (honestly lower than most any laptop uses today) and the power laptop range (not even high power laptop range). Comparisons will be interesting once we see the Mac Pro heat range M* chip.
- trynumber9 5y agoThat wasn't the point as I read it. They were talking about performance. Zen 3 is a small, simple design compared to the braniac Fire Storm. There is little savings from ARM, Apple is simply using far more transistors to build a massive core.
- whynotminot 5y ago> Please mention a low power chip that AMD makes that's competitive with an apple chip at similar power levels. It doesn't exist. That's why people keep inventing hypothetical AMD 5nm parts to compete with the M1 as if it somehow scores points for AMD to win with an imaginary chip against a real one. The irony of this is that the same AMD fanboys were (legitimately) dismissive of similar arguments from Intel fanboys for years prior to this. "If Intel was on 7nm Zen wouldn't be able to compete!" Maybe, but it isn't, and the only reasonable comparisons are with silicon that actually exists.
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