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Why all the attention on Facebook? How many people has Twitter radicalized? We had a year of riots with 10s dead and billions in damage, the actual taliban and
by tjs8rj 5y ago
Why all the attention on Facebook? How many people has Twitter radicalized? We had a year of riots with 10s dead and billions in damage, the actual taliban and hamas are active on Twitter, and any content you find on Facebook is just as readily available on Twitter.
I’m not defending Facebook here, it’s just as toxic as the rest. But that’s exactly the point: they’re ALL toxic, why the disproportionate focus on Facebook?
- paulryanrogers 5y agoFacebook has many more users. Twitter's tweet limit also makes content less likely to be long form, and possibly less effective to persuade. Those are my guesses anyway.
- yuppie_scum 5y agoDoesn’t mean we should ignore the problems at Facebook.
- Darmody 5y agoNo, it means some problems are addressed while others aren't.
- lanza 5y agoMedia companies who make their revenue on advertisements have a business interest to attack their biggest competitor. Fair criticism or not, the continued push against Facebook just feels like desperate hope for news outlets to gain some ground against tech giants.
- Clubber 5y agoI remember reading articles about how Facebook "tricked" a news outlets to leverage Facebook's news feed in an attempt to keep them relevant by giving them exposure to their user base, but it backfired on them. Here's a couple of article on it I found. https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/03/facebooks-siren-call/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/03/facebooks-siren-call/ https://www.cjr.org/special_report/facebook-media-buzzfeed.php https://www.cjr.org/special_report/facebook-media-buzzfeed.p...
- _8j50 5y agoFB recommends and suggests content much like youtube except much more social. Twitter is closer to reddit than FB.
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoReddit is worse than facebook. Their voting system concentrates extremism and portrays that extremism as mainstream. For all of FB's stupid "engagement optomization" BS as least there exist fewer feedback loops to mint new extremists on it.
- worrycue 5y agoReddit, like HN, have “deniability” though. It’s the users that are doing it, the users control the front page, not some fancy engagement algorithm.
- systemvoltage 5y agoThis is my hunch, but is it fair to say that it is because Twitter (left) and FB (center)? Everything that's left cannot be touched. You'll get burned by the mob. Another observation: No criticism of Tiktok on HN.
- malermeister 5y agoTwitter is by no means left. It's where Trump used to hang out, it's where the entire right wing griftosphere (Shapiro, Trump Jr, JonTron, Czernovich et al) still hang out. The only mob I've ever experienced is right wingers storming the capitol while decrying cancel culture.
- systemvoltage 5y agoA miniscule portion of the right wing supports storming the Capitol (which seems to be the clutch), and far more people on the left wing speak out against cancel culture (myself included). Twitter immediately pulled Trump the moment he left office. It had no spine to do it earlier, which if the leadership had any consistency in their morals would have done a lot earlier. Anyways, this is just my hunch and trying to observe some trends. It could be completely wrong.
- malermeister 5y agoHere's an article from today contradicting your initial claim pretty neatly: https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/22/22740703/twitter-algorithm-right-wing-amplification-study https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/22/22740703/twitter-algorit...
- systemvoltage 5y agoI was thinking perhaps about the leadership (Jack vs. Zuck/Thiel). This is good clarification regardless.
- malermeister 5y ago