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From the AGPL itself: > 8. Termination. > You may not propagate or modify a covered work except as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt otherwis
by monocasa 5y ago
From the AGPL itself:
> 8. Termination.
> You may not propagate or modify a covered work except as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt otherwise to propagate or modify it is void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this License (including any patent licenses granted under the third paragraph of section 11).
> However, if you cease all violation of this License, then your license from a particular copyright holder is reinstated (a) provisionally, unless and until the copyright holder explicitly and finally terminates your license, and (b) permanently, if the copyright holder fails to notify you of the violation by some reasonable means prior to 60 days after the cessation.
> Moreover, your license from a particular copyright holder is reinstated permanently if the copyright holder notifies you of the violation by some reasonable means, this is the first time you have received notice of violation of this License (for any work) from that copyright holder, and you cure the violation prior to 30 days after your receipt of the notice.
> Termination of your rights under this section does not terminate the licenses of parties who have received copies or rights from you under this License. If your rights have been terminated and not permanently reinstated, you do not qualify to receive new licenses for the same material under section 10.
- Andrew_nenakhov 5y agoAnd where is the "permanent termination" in here? Once a user ceases a violation, his license is reinstated, _permanently_. Thus, the license can't be _permanently terminated_. Permanent termination means that you will lose the right to use this software forever, without any recourse.
- monocasa 5y agoNo, it's reinstated permanently if the copyright holder fails to reply within 60 days of the cessation, (and provisionally entirely on the whim of the copyright holder). The SF Conservancy is openly stating that they don't plan to drop the ball in those ways.
- erosenbe0 5y ago"provisionally, unless and until the copyright holder explicitly and finally terminates your license" I think finally terminates == final termination == permanently terminated
- Andrew_nenakhov 5y agoI actually did dig this a bit, and found this interesting text [1]: If you have distributed only v3-licensed programs, you may be eligible under v3 § 8 for automatic reinstatement of rights. You are eligible for automatic reinstatement when: you correct the violation and are not contacted by a copyright holder about the violation within sixty days after the correction, or you receive, from a copyright holder, your first-ever contact regarding a GPL violation, and you correct that violation within thirty days of receipt of copyright holder’s notice. In addition to these permanent reinstatements provided under v3, violators who voluntarily correct their violation also receive provisional permission to continue distributing until they receive contact from the copyright holder. If sixty days pass without contact, that reinstatement becomes permanent. Nonetheless, you should be prepared to cease distribution during those initial sixty days should you receive a termination notice from the copyright holder. So it seems that copyright holders can specifically revoke the rights if they discover a violation. However, it is not yet a fact that the violation has indeed happened, just because someone discovered an instance of AGPL software on an internet server. Modern developers assume that 'make code available to users' equals 'publishing it on the internet'. But there is no such requirement: you may just as well provide the code by request using email, floppy disk or pigeon mail. So if somebody mails Trump Group a request to provide source code, they may very well bide their time to process mail in the orderly manner and send the copy of the code to the person who requested that code. [1]: https://softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/compliance-guide.html https://softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/compliance-guide....