> Even the worst models of climate change do not predict the catastrophic ends you are attempting to paint. You're just distracting from the issue at this point

> Even the worst models of climate change do not predict the catastrophic ends you are attempting to paint. You're just distracting from the issue at this point. In general, I find doomsday predictions unvaluable. Nevertheless, i'm not going to fall for this change in goalposts. Yes. Yes they do. [1] That, and climate reality has so far been worse than our worst case models in many respects. [2] [1] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/14/nasa-civilisation-irreversible-collapse-study-scientists https://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/m... [2] https://www.haaretz.com/science-and-health/global-warming-is-worse-than-most-models-predict-data-driven-new-study-warns-1.5627926 https://www.haaretz.com/science-and-health/global-warming-is... Anyway, we could keep going, but we've been at this all morning so it's probably best to let it lie. I feel comfortable I've made my point well enough, and I think you've made yours. I think we're unlikely to make further progress in a low bandwidth media. I dunno, maybe if/when I write the book I dream of I'll be able to address more of your points in more detail and with more data and you'll find that more convincing than I can be reactively writing forum posts. Until then, I've appreciated the dialog.