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Concerning social networks, it's even more than just talking about yourself. It's about creators' wants of acknowledgement/views and the greed and addiction ass

Concerning social networks, it's even more than just talking about yourself. It's about creators' wants of acknowledgement/views and the greed and addiction associated with it. Of course users in a hypothetical social education network would want views from their material too, but it would require the removal of sinking to the lowest common denominator from the equation. As you pointed out, that seems to already exist in specific forums/sites/etc. Really, I guess it comes down to the users. People who want to learn will seek out education and discourse wherever they can. And those who don't seek it out, either don't want to or are unaware that they can. Is it possible to make education and sharing of ideas more attractive via a social network to that second group?

jamesandthewolf 5y ago
Yes however when you have allowed a "free" platform to be used be adolescents and made it normal part of life then you start exploiting that, the education part becomes unimportant and it's more about the creators then about helping. Just put an 18 plus limit on it maybe ban it from kids as they are the ones who are so easily manipulated they don't know fact from fiction and it makes the rumours worse. If kids are learning their truth from social media it's a problem as it becomes engraved in their thinking.
- aceazzameen 5y ago
  I don't think you can ban anything from kids. They'll always find a way.
jamesandthewolf 5y ago
Anyway I saw Facebook when it started out and it was kind of nice to be able to chat to my mates around the world, however for me it was always just a junk thing to be a clown on, little did others or myself know it would impact the very cores of society. Instead of it being monitored and controlled like most other major impacts it was left to just snow ball into a massive situation we have today. Lol FFS to allow them to employ people to focus on addiction techniques like what the hell how was that even legal, I mean come on where were the audits and protections it's crazy.
- aceazzameen 5y ago
  Yeah, I understand. Early Facebook was a nice "keep in touch" platform - before likes and sharing. I think the reality is for-profit social networks will always be detrimental to society long term. You can add paywalls, but then you're only working with an exclusive minority. That probably won't work long term. I wonder if something run by the Wikimedia Foundation or an equivalent could work. Like a MyWiki.
  - jamesandthewolf 5y ago
    Maybe like it could work where you get like here karma, but the Karma is more based on your content you submit which needs to be approved and audited, like a forum or peer review. The points allow you to connect with people but only connect with people that have the same value. IE a person with 100 points can connect with a person who has 100-150 but not someone with points above this. Below this you might also have an up and down cap to keep people in smaller community based circles and maybe limit this to like 400 people. It's an idea it's not perfect but maybe it could allow us to be better. Having a limit of 5000 lol how can you even have 5000 friends it's impossible. You can always follow these groups that part anyone can do you just can't interact with them with out being connected, or forming your own sub group which in doing this will spin up your own fan base and acceptance feeling. Again is not perfect
- ryan-allen 5y ago
  > Lol FFS to allow them to employ people to focus on addiction techniques like what the hell how was that even legal Gambling industries all over the world have been doing this longer than Facebook, and nobody seemed to bat too much of an eyelid.

jamesandthewolf 5y ago

Yes however when you have allowed a "free" platform to be used be adolescents and made it normal part of life then you start exploiting that, the education part becomes unimportant and it's more about the creators then about helping. Just put an 18 plus limit on it maybe ban it from kids as they are the ones who are so easily manipulated they don't know fact from fiction and it makes the rumours worse. If kids are learning their truth from social media it's a problem as it becomes engraved in their thinking.

aceazzameen 5y ago
I don't think you can ban anything from kids. They'll always find a way.

jamesandthewolf 5y ago

Anyway I saw Facebook when it started out and it was kind of nice to be able to chat to my mates around the world, however for me it was always just a junk thing to be a clown on, little did others or myself know it would impact the very cores of society. Instead of it being monitored and controlled like most other major impacts it was left to just snow ball into a massive situation we have today. Lol FFS to allow them to employ people to focus on addiction techniques like what the hell how was that even legal, I mean come on where were the audits and protections it's crazy.

aceazzameen 5y ago
Yeah, I understand. Early Facebook was a nice "keep in touch" platform - before likes and sharing. I think the reality is for-profit social networks will always be detrimental to society long term. You can add paywalls, but then you're only working with an exclusive minority. That probably won't work long term. I wonder if something run by the Wikimedia Foundation or an equivalent could work. Like a MyWiki.
- jamesandthewolf 5y ago
  Maybe like it could work where you get like here karma, but the Karma is more based on your content you submit which needs to be approved and audited, like a forum or peer review. The points allow you to connect with people but only connect with people that have the same value. IE a person with 100 points can connect with a person who has 100-150 but not someone with points above this. Below this you might also have an up and down cap to keep people in smaller community based circles and maybe limit this to like 400 people. It's an idea it's not perfect but maybe it could allow us to be better. Having a limit of 5000 lol how can you even have 5000 friends it's impossible. You can always follow these groups that part anyone can do you just can't interact with them with out being connected, or forming your own sub group which in doing this will spin up your own fan base and acceptance feeling. Again is not perfect
ryan-allen 5y ago
> Lol FFS to allow them to employ people to focus on addiction techniques like what the hell how was that even legal Gambling industries all over the world have been doing this longer than Facebook, and nobody seemed to bat too much of an eyelid.