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I’m not aware of any industries where competitors charge 25-50% of the price of their main competitor. Perhaps temporarily, but search has been stagnant for 5-

I’m not aware of any industries where competitors charge 25-50% of the price of their main competitor. Perhaps temporarily, but search has been stagnant for 5-10 years.

rvba 5y ago
Google search seems to have regressed in quality. I guess those various people need to prove that they are needed so they make changes for the sake of doing something.. and quality of the product declines.
makeitdouble 5y ago
It happens on most industries where there is a de facto standard. MS Windows alternatives cost way less down to 0. Photoshop competitors also are cheaper. Same for Word competitors, GoPro alternatives etc.
- throwaway2048 5y ago
  Those have one commonality, they are all software platforms that are practical monopolies on their space.
mupuff1234 5y ago
It's actually hard for me to think of any consumer driven industry where that isn't the case: cars, fashion, fitness & tech all have brands that come with a significant premium.
sofixa 5y ago
ISPs and mobile network providers? On the French market Orange (the former state monopoly) is usually 25%-50% more expensive, with less features, slightly better coverage (for mobile networks) and "enterprise support" than the 3 other competitors. Having them as an ISP makes absolutely zero sense - no IPv6, IPv4 gets rotated daily, shit hardware. They have time limited exclusivity for some places (e.g. if they put down fiber in a city, they have exclusivity over the network for 2-3 years and then anyone can use it), but that really doesn't explain their market share.
- penteract 5y ago
  25%-50% more expensive means that competitors are charging 66%-80% of the price.
Jensson 5y ago
> I’m not aware of any industries where competitors charge 25-50% of the price of their main competitor. Alternative smartphone app stores charges way less than 25-50% of Google or Apple. You need to compare electronic markets with electronic markets like this, and the big players tend to take out extremely high fees in those areas. Although, I agree that charging high fees in these areas is a problem and should be fixed, but it isn't like this sort of thing is uncommon. Edit: As an example, Apple takes 30% cut. A competitor taking 7.5% cut would cost 25% of Apples app store.
hnaccount_rng 5y ago
Any kind of hardware tools? Furniture? I’m pretty sure I can come up with more examples if I’m thinking about it. But those just came immediately to mind

I’m not aware of any industries where competitors charge 25-50% of the price of their main competitor. Perhaps temporarily, but search has been stagnant for 5-10 years.

rvba 5y ago

Google search seems to have regressed in quality. I guess those various people need to prove that they are needed so they make changes for the sake of doing something.. and quality of the product declines.

makeitdouble 5y ago

It happens on most industries where there is a de facto standard. MS Windows alternatives cost way less down to 0. Photoshop competitors also are cheaper. Same for Word competitors, GoPro alternatives etc.

throwaway2048 5y ago
Those have one commonality, they are all software platforms that are practical monopolies on their space.

mupuff1234 5y ago

It's actually hard for me to think of any consumer driven industry where that isn't the case: cars, fashion, fitness & tech all have brands that come with a significant premium.

sofixa 5y ago

ISPs and mobile network providers? On the French market Orange (the former state monopoly) is usually 25%-50% more expensive, with less features, slightly better coverage (for mobile networks) and "enterprise support" than the 3 other competitors. Having them as an ISP makes absolutely zero sense - no IPv6, IPv4 gets rotated daily, shit hardware. They have time limited exclusivity for some places (e.g. if they put down fiber in a city, they have exclusivity over the network for 2-3 years and then anyone can use it), but that really doesn't explain their market share.

penteract 5y ago
25%-50% more expensive means that competitors are charging 66%-80% of the price.

Jensson 5y ago

> I’m not aware of any industries where competitors charge 25-50% of the price of their main competitor. Alternative smartphone app stores charges way less than 25-50% of Google or Apple. You need to compare electronic markets with electronic markets like this, and the big players tend to take out extremely high fees in those areas. Although, I agree that charging high fees in these areas is a problem and should be fixed, but it isn't like this sort of thing is uncommon. Edit: As an example, Apple takes 30% cut. A competitor taking 7.5% cut would cost 25% of Apples app store.

hnaccount_rng 5y ago

Any kind of hardware tools? Furniture? I’m pretty sure I can come up with more examples if I’m thinking about it. But those just came immediately to mind