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I'm not a fan of Facebook and starting to see linkedin heading the same way, I just don't get the look at my one it's bigger then yours I don't understand this

I'm not a fan of Facebook and starting to see linkedin heading the same way, I just don't get the look at my one it's bigger then yours I don't understand this so don't join in the game. I personally feel like Facebook and lots of social media is more a fashion statement or cheap thrill. I kind of am liking it here as it's more meaningful and feels like more of an education then a show off session. Facebook's ideas seam more on how do we make more money, then how can we leave the world in a better place. We should protect privacy not profit off and take advantage of the legal flaws around this area. I also feel that Facebook manipulate others when I did use it everyone was always happy always a nice story but reality is never this way life is ups and downs and sometimes it's nice to keep those ups and downs private and not share them for humanity to expose and profit off.

aceazzameen 5y ago
You made me think, is it even possible to create a social media network geared towards education (sharing skills and ideas) for the masses? I suppose YouTube is somewhat there. But it's blended with so much crap.
- MaysonL 5y ago
  OfficeHours.global is working on it…
- jamesandthewolf 5y ago
  Maybe it's possible, however you would need like a law to allow freedoms but not hinder on others freedoms, maybe like a art platform where you can only discuss via symbols and signs, original artwork or images that are approved but then you enter a kind of dictatorship platform it's a fine line.
- christophilus 5y ago
  Anything “for the masses” has to compete to win over the average and below average intellects. From what I can tell, that means that you have to get more and more sensationalistic to keep market share. You’re competing with a lot of addictive content out there, and educational content generally doesn’t fare well in that regard. Remember all of those educational video games in the past? Math blasters? They sucked. There’s no way they could compete with Mario and Zelda. This is the same phenomenon.
  - jamesandthewolf 5y ago
    Is life and being alive not already the game that achieves this unless I'm mistaken it's the ultimate education platform, so maybe the answers are in finding a new way to address it.
    - adrianN 5y ago
      People play games and consume media mostly to get away from life, because life has many aspects that suck.
      - jamesandthewolf 5y ago
        Touché good human. Touché!
  - GlennS 5y ago
    > You’re competing with a lot of addictive content out there, and educational content generally doesn’t fare well in that regard. Remember all of those educational video games in the past? Math blasters? They sucked. There’s no way they could compete with Mario and Zelda. This is the same phenomenon. I think you took the wrong lesson here (seems appropriate given the subject). Edutainment (Word Rescue and so on) wasn't unpopular because people are stupid. It was unpopular because it wasn't very good. They chased two rabbits and lost them both (education, entertainment). Mario was more fun, better art, and probably better for your mind.
- blitzar 5y ago
  Yet YouTubers constantly make clickbait titles like "Tour of my 10 MILLLION DOLLAR house" or "I gave away $50,000"
  - mhh__ 5y ago
    Well yes, but 3Blue1Brown exists on the same site for example.
    - blitzar 5y ago
      And they also have a page on facebook.
  - lovecg 5y ago
    Have you met one of “the masses”? That’s simply what they want - not educational math videos.
- indigochill 5y ago
  Social network, no. Social networks are for talking about yourself, and that's generally not very productive for educational purposes. However, in the slightly earlier life of the internet BBSes and forums were all the rage, and those were actually useful, because the focus was on discussing common interests instead of everyone just showing themselves off (and forums are still around! Discourse is a modern open source implementation). Which is probably also why people like HN, because it still follows the forum pattern rather than the social network pattern. Some subreddits are also useful for this, when you get into somewhat less controversial corners like learning math or music theory. Stack Overflow and its various spinoffs is probably another good real-world example.
  - aceazzameen 5y ago
    Concerning social networks, it's even more than just talking about yourself. It's about creators' wants of acknowledgement/views and the greed and addiction associated with it. Of course users in a hypothetical social education network would want views from their material too, but it would require the removal of sinking to the lowest common denominator from the equation. As you pointed out, that seems to already exist in specific forums/sites/etc. Really, I guess it comes down to the users. People who want to learn will seek out education and discourse wherever they can. And those who don't seek it out, either don't want to or are unaware that they can. Is it possible to make education and sharing of ideas more attractive via a social network to that second group?
    - jamesandthewolf 5y ago
      Yes however when you have allowed a "free" platform to be used be adolescents and made it normal part of life then you start exploiting that, the education part becomes unimportant and it's more about the creators then about helping. Just put an 18 plus limit on it maybe ban it from kids as they are the ones who are so easily manipulated they don't know fact from fiction and it makes the rumours worse. If kids are learning their truth from social media it's a problem as it becomes engraved in their thinking.
      - 5y ago
- rizky05 5y ago
  Your crap is gold for someone.

aceazzameen 5y ago

You made me think, is it even possible to create a social media network geared towards education (sharing skills and ideas) for the masses? I suppose YouTube is somewhat there. But it's blended with so much crap.

MaysonL 5y ago
OfficeHours.global is working on it…
jamesandthewolf 5y ago
Maybe it's possible, however you would need like a law to allow freedoms but not hinder on others freedoms, maybe like a art platform where you can only discuss via symbols and signs, original artwork or images that are approved but then you enter a kind of dictatorship platform it's a fine line.
christophilus 5y ago
Anything “for the masses” has to compete to win over the average and below average intellects. From what I can tell, that means that you have to get more and more sensationalistic to keep market share. You’re competing with a lot of addictive content out there, and educational content generally doesn’t fare well in that regard. Remember all of those educational video games in the past? Math blasters? They sucked. There’s no way they could compete with Mario and Zelda. This is the same phenomenon.
- jamesandthewolf 5y ago
  Is life and being alive not already the game that achieves this unless I'm mistaken it's the ultimate education platform, so maybe the answers are in finding a new way to address it.
  - adrianN 5y ago
    People play games and consume media mostly to get away from life, because life has many aspects that suck.
    - jamesandthewolf 5y ago
      Touché good human. Touché!
- GlennS 5y ago
  > You’re competing with a lot of addictive content out there, and educational content generally doesn’t fare well in that regard. Remember all of those educational video games in the past? Math blasters? They sucked. There’s no way they could compete with Mario and Zelda. This is the same phenomenon. I think you took the wrong lesson here (seems appropriate given the subject). Edutainment (Word Rescue and so on) wasn't unpopular because people are stupid. It was unpopular because it wasn't very good. They chased two rabbits and lost them both (education, entertainment). Mario was more fun, better art, and probably better for your mind.
blitzar 5y ago
Yet YouTubers constantly make clickbait titles like "Tour of my 10 MILLLION DOLLAR house" or "I gave away $50,000"
- mhh__ 5y ago
  Well yes, but 3Blue1Brown exists on the same site for example.
  - blitzar 5y ago
    And they also have a page on facebook.
- lovecg 5y ago
  Have you met one of “the masses”? That’s simply what they want - not educational math videos.
indigochill 5y ago
Social network, no. Social networks are for talking about yourself, and that's generally not very productive for educational purposes. However, in the slightly earlier life of the internet BBSes and forums were all the rage, and those were actually useful, because the focus was on discussing common interests instead of everyone just showing themselves off (and forums are still around! Discourse is a modern open source implementation). Which is probably also why people like HN, because it still follows the forum pattern rather than the social network pattern. Some subreddits are also useful for this, when you get into somewhat less controversial corners like learning math or music theory. Stack Overflow and its various spinoffs is probably another good real-world example.
- aceazzameen 5y ago
  Concerning social networks, it's even more than just talking about yourself. It's about creators' wants of acknowledgement/views and the greed and addiction associated with it. Of course users in a hypothetical social education network would want views from their material too, but it would require the removal of sinking to the lowest common denominator from the equation. As you pointed out, that seems to already exist in specific forums/sites/etc. Really, I guess it comes down to the users. People who want to learn will seek out education and discourse wherever they can. And those who don't seek it out, either don't want to or are unaware that they can. Is it possible to make education and sharing of ideas more attractive via a social network to that second group?
  - jamesandthewolf 5y ago
    Yes however when you have allowed a "free" platform to be used be adolescents and made it normal part of life then you start exploiting that, the education part becomes unimportant and it's more about the creators then about helping. Just put an 18 plus limit on it maybe ban it from kids as they are the ones who are so easily manipulated they don't know fact from fiction and it makes the rumours worse. If kids are learning their truth from social media it's a problem as it becomes engraved in their thinking.
    - 5y ago
rizky05 5y ago
Your crap is gold for someone.