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Never trust media on counts. Went to some boat rallies that had many thousands of people and hundreds of boat. Highly impressive turnout. Media reports made
by treeman79 5y ago
Never trust media on counts.
Went to some boat rallies that had many thousands of people and hundreds of boat. Highly impressive turnout.
Media reports made it out that barely anyone showed up.
- jstummbillig 5y agoWanted to comment with a snide "QED", then got really sad, because jumping from poor reporting on boat rallies to "never trust the media" feels way too real right now.
- treeman79 5y agoWhy on earth would anyone “trust” the media or any other group. That’s like believing Facebook has your best interest in mind. Figure out what a group wants to understand how they are spinning story.
- krastanov 5y agoIt is more about having a slightly more sophisticated and realistic view of the world than a binary "they are good/bad". Everyone has biases, everyone is frequently imprecise in "something", and everything is political, but that does not mean you should distrust everyone and assume they are malicious/incompetent.
- vageli 5y ago> It is more about having a slightly more sophisticated and realistic view of the world than a binary "they are good/bad" That was not my take on treeman's comment. They didn't say distrust everyone, but that motives are usually far from altruistic and more selfish in nature. That people have selfish reasons for doing what they do is worth recognizing. A corporation offering you something most likely does not have your best interests in mind, but their bottom line.
- r3trohack3r 5y agoA similar take: Don’t get your updates on X from someone trying to sell you some version of X. Get it from someone who has to explain X before selling you on Y.
- cutemonster 5y agoMaybe also, someone who sells you Y, but none of unrelated M,N,O,P,Q,R -- if she is nevertheless familiar with those, you could ask her about those
- salawat 5y agoI just want to point out that adults in my life did a terrible job of explaining "spin" and perception management to me until I was well into my 20's. People mentioned that sort of thing, or it was mentioned in novels and I always assumed they meant those tabloids in the supermarket, and that the "real media" were a cut above, because on the surface, they A) seemed to report on a truth, B)seemed to at least be willing to go on the record to correct errors. After all, at that point I paid more attention to what people said, and did not quite grasp the whole "communication through not saying" thing. I'm spending a great deal of time figuring out how to make a game of "spot the hidden subtext" with kiddos. Just to make them hellions down the road.
- thatguy0900 5y agoMore like jumping from "any time I am familiar with something and see an article on it, the article is super inaccurate" to "never trust the media"
- BuyMyBitcoins 5y agoThe Gell-Mann Amnesia effect! “Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.” – Michael Crichton (1942-2008)
- lexapro 5y agoIt's really hard to estimate the size of crowds without the help of technology.
- treeman79 5y agoReported crowd size has more to do with if the reporter wants to promote or disparate a group. How they want to “spin” the story.
- y4mi 5y agoDepends on how they're reporting on it. There absolutely are reporters that do this by always saying things like "it feels like... " Etc. It's however notoriously hard to estimate these numbers and participants generally overestimate the amount by several orders of magnitude.