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This would carry more weight if Stripe were to maintain a mobile operating system, and an app store to help developers get customers.

heavyset_go 5y ago
App developers already pay Apple $100 a year and, as someone in these comments calculated, that earns Apple $2 billion a year alone. Developers regularly need to buy Apple computers, tablets and phones that have 64% profit margins. Users are also buying those computers, tablets and phones that have 64% profit margins. > and an app store to help developers get customers. Apple strictly enforces limits and restrictions on users' devices that ensure that the App Store is the only way to get customers. Every other way is banned. Customers cannot get the apps they want without the App Store. Developers are able to find customers on their own, otherwise. If you want to enter the mobile or tablet markets at all, you're forced to give either company 15% to 30% of your gross revenue. There's no choice, alternative or competition because all the competition is banned. Personally, I don't think running an exclusive mobile app repository, and then forcing all apps to use Apple or Google's payment methods, should entitle either company to 15% to 30% of a company or developer's gross revenue.
- rahimnathwani 5y ago
  We’re discussing Google’s 15% cut of subscriptions purchased through the Google Play store. Google doesn’t require anyone to pay Apple $100/year, nor does Google require anyone to buy Apple hardware. So none of the costs you mention are relevant to the article we’re discussing. And Google doesn’t run ‘an exclusive mobile app repository’. A dozen or more of the apps on my mobile are installed from F-droid, and Google does nothing to prevent those apps from working.
  - oblio 5y ago
    Google also makes money through ads, ads which you're guided to through control of the operating system (and browser). It also makes money by providing their apps and services a front row seat in mobile marketing heaven, on prime screen real estate. Let's not weep yet for Google's Android hardships.

heavyset_go 5y ago

App developers already pay Apple $100 a year and, as someone in these comments calculated, that earns Apple $2 billion a year alone. Developers regularly need to buy Apple computers, tablets and phones that have 64% profit margins. Users are also buying those computers, tablets and phones that have 64% profit margins. > and an app store to help developers get customers. Apple strictly enforces limits and restrictions on users' devices that ensure that the App Store is the only way to get customers. Every other way is banned. Customers cannot get the apps they want without the App Store. Developers are able to find customers on their own, otherwise. If you want to enter the mobile or tablet markets at all, you're forced to give either company 15% to 30% of your gross revenue. There's no choice, alternative or competition because all the competition is banned. Personally, I don't think running an exclusive mobile app repository, and then forcing all apps to use Apple or Google's payment methods, should entitle either company to 15% to 30% of a company or developer's gross revenue.

rahimnathwani 5y ago
We’re discussing Google’s 15% cut of subscriptions purchased through the Google Play store. Google doesn’t require anyone to pay Apple $100/year, nor does Google require anyone to buy Apple hardware. So none of the costs you mention are relevant to the article we’re discussing. And Google doesn’t run ‘an exclusive mobile app repository’. A dozen or more of the apps on my mobile are installed from F-droid, and Google does nothing to prevent those apps from working.
- oblio 5y ago
  Google also makes money through ads, ads which you're guided to through control of the operating system (and browser). It also makes money by providing their apps and services a front row seat in mobile marketing heaven, on prime screen real estate. Let's not weep yet for Google's Android hardships.