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You'll notice at no point am I saying to hate white men. At all. In fact I'm saying that despite people having valid reasons to not trust white men, we should s

You'll notice at no point am I saying to hate white men. At all. In fact I'm saying that despite people having valid reasons to not trust white men, we should still stand for them and watch out for their interests to. Which in fact, is the complete opposite of fomenting hatred.

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the_optimist 5y ago
"people have a valid reason not to trust _____ " is the very definition of prejudice, and synonymous with bigotry. Again: fill in the blank with any group just to stand witness. I hear the historic racialist explaining that Black/Japanese/Chinese/Albinos/whatever are untrustworthy. Plain old prejudice couched in modern clothing.
- JasonCannon 5y ago
  Except white men have historically and continue to oppress women and people of color. Black/Japanese/Chinese/Albinos have never oppressed white men in America. That's the huge difference you are (very purposely) missing.
  - the_optimist 5y ago
    Yes, I am intentionally ignoring your slander. There's not even measured statistical analysis here let alone causality, and even then, such analyses are often used to try to rationalize bigotry on the basis of some artifact. This is merely boring slander desperately trying to justify prejudice. Tiresome at best, but moreover used to rationalize truly horrific reality like genocide. Totally grotesque. "Not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
    - JasonCannon 5y ago
      Ok, it's pretty obvious at this point that you are not actually trying to have a serious conversation. My slander? It's slander to say that white men have oppressed and often continue to oppress women and people of color? Ok my guy. Apparently history and paying attention to what is currently going on is slander. Stop your trolling.
      - the_optimist 5y ago
        Yes, this is slander based on skin tone: a very mundane bigotry meme repeated in history. This should have died out long ago, but here you are doing your best to perpetuate it for the ages. I have nothing further to add.

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the_optimist 5y ago

"people have a valid reason not to trust _____ " is the very definition of prejudice, and synonymous with bigotry. Again: fill in the blank with any group just to stand witness. I hear the historic racialist explaining that Black/Japanese/Chinese/Albinos/whatever are untrustworthy. Plain old prejudice couched in modern clothing.

JasonCannon 5y ago
Except white men have historically and continue to oppress women and people of color. Black/Japanese/Chinese/Albinos have never oppressed white men in America. That's the huge difference you are (very purposely) missing.
- the_optimist 5y ago
  Yes, I am intentionally ignoring your slander. There's not even measured statistical analysis here let alone causality, and even then, such analyses are often used to try to rationalize bigotry on the basis of some artifact. This is merely boring slander desperately trying to justify prejudice. Tiresome at best, but moreover used to rationalize truly horrific reality like genocide. Totally grotesque. "Not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
  - JasonCannon 5y ago
    Ok, it's pretty obvious at this point that you are not actually trying to have a serious conversation. My slander? It's slander to say that white men have oppressed and often continue to oppress women and people of color? Ok my guy. Apparently history and paying attention to what is currently going on is slander. Stop your trolling.
    - the_optimist 5y ago
      Yes, this is slander based on skin tone: a very mundane bigotry meme repeated in history. This should have died out long ago, but here you are doing your best to perpetuate it for the ages. I have nothing further to add.