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>You've made a very concrete claim here: "PG appears to be a dishonest writer," and then showed no evidence of dishonesty. This is wrong. Here is my evidence:

>You've made a very concrete claim here: "PG appears to be a dishonest writer," and then showed no evidence of dishonesty. This is wrong. Here is my evidence: His articles are exclusively self serving. He consistently ignores and degrades canons of thought that might threaten his ideas. This is dishonest behavior, even if it isnt an outright lie, in the same way that saying "vaccines caused my cousins balls to inflate" would be dishonest even if it weren't a lie. It's dishonest in the same way the church shouting down Copernicus was dishonest. The dishonesty is omission + ignorance, not a direct lie. I and GP made this point to you many times, and you have continuously chosen to lower the wool over your eyes. >It sounds like we'll have to agree to disagree. I see no need to agree to this.

sillysaurusx 5y ago
> He consistently ignores and degrades canons of thought that might threaten his ideas. Could you find a quote from any pg essay that supports this point? This seems mistaken. As for the self-serving part, I don't think it's a bad thing to write about one's own experiences.
- philosopher1234 5y ago
  Writing about ones own experiences may not necessarily be self serving. Ignoring others experiences whole cloth in order to make a point that benefits you is self serving. >Could you find a quote from any pg essay that supports this point? This seems mistaken. First of all, this is the wrong way to interpret my point. I'm making a point about ignorance. You need to look for whats not there, not what is there. Second, yes as it happens I can: https://twitter.com/geofft/status/1337895041990356994 https://twitter.com/geofft/status/1337895041990356994 Is a racist who simply never talks to any POC, cites any of their work, or hires them, not racist just because they never explicitly say they hate minorities?
zd123 5y ago
You are absolutely right, but some people are unable to read between the lines. For them its not true unless pg writes it down in a confession in his essay.

sillysaurusx 5y ago

> He consistently ignores and degrades canons of thought that might threaten his ideas. Could you find a quote from any pg essay that supports this point? This seems mistaken. As for the self-serving part, I don't think it's a bad thing to write about one's own experiences.

philosopher1234 5y ago
Writing about ones own experiences may not necessarily be self serving. Ignoring others experiences whole cloth in order to make a point that benefits you is self serving. >Could you find a quote from any pg essay that supports this point? This seems mistaken. First of all, this is the wrong way to interpret my point. I'm making a point about ignorance. You need to look for whats not there, not what is there. Second, yes as it happens I can: https://twitter.com/geofft/status/1337895041990356994 https://twitter.com/geofft/status/1337895041990356994 Is a racist who simply never talks to any POC, cites any of their work, or hires them, not racist just because they never explicitly say they hate minorities?

zd123 5y ago

You are absolutely right, but some people are unable to read between the lines. For them its not true unless pg writes it down in a confession in his essay.