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When you buy a game for the Wii, do you expect to get the 3DS version free?

by MonkeyCrumpets 15y ago

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risratorn 15y ago
Exactly! Imo it's nothing more than normal you'd have to pay for the mobile versions too.
njharman 15y ago
Yes, just like shifting music or movies from CD/DVD player to mp3/Computer. When I buy "content" or a license to "play" I expect to be able to transfer it amongst all the devices I own. I know software requires manual translation. But, the above behavior is what I expect.
- ugh 15y ago
  Well, then expect to be disappointed. People will want to be paid for their work.
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- aw3c2 15y ago
  Music is just data/content, no program code. You can certainly transfer any client files you got from the normal Minecraft installation to your phone and (unsuccessfully) try to use them. A program port is more than just moving data.
- watty 15y ago
  If you bought a house would you expect a smaller replica of your house to be free? No, it requires work to build that house just like the original and therefore costs money.
  - jholman 15y ago
    Worst. Analogy. Evar. If you bought a house, would you expect to be able to use that house on both your desktop AND your laptop, because it's the same damn house? Uh, no, because physical matter doesn't work that way. In case you haven't heard, though, copying data _does_ work that way, and many people DO expect that if they buy music they SHOULD be able to use it on more than one device. And similarly for games (when it's a single chunk of code), which is actually how Minecraft actually works. Note, I'm not arguing that MPE should be free with purchase of Minecraft, or that it shouldn't. I'm just pointing out the deadly obvious: that physical-goods arguments are basically useless for digital goods. I just fed a troll, didn't I?
    - watty 15y ago
      I don't know, I think it's pretty good and certainly better than yours. I assume you don't write software because that's not how porting works. Mojang didn't do a copy/paste job to create the mobile version they actually had to hire a _separate developer_ for the sole purpose of developing the Android game. It probably reuses some assets and code but it's not an easy task to optimize a game as heavy as Minecraft for a mobile device. You can't copy Minecraft from your PC to your Android phone like an MP3 (well you can, but it won't work). My analogy was trying to get to the point that a smaller house would be able to reuse assets (scaled drawings, design, etc.) but it still requires someone (similar to a new developer) to create it and port the existing design to the less complicated design.
      - dkersten 15y ago
        What about: If you bought a house, do you expect to get an identical house free in another country? (a country is like a computer platform, right?)
        watty 15y ago
        No, that's where my analogy fails. The intention was to use an analogy that someone who doesn't understand software development would understand. It only applies to the development aspect and work required - not the ability to make copies (Minecraft Mobile is not a copy, a separate version).
- parfe 15y ago
  You are free to take the code you bought and move it right on over to your phone.
- icebraining 15y ago
  You are able to transfer it. It's not the developer's fault Android won't run an J2SE application, just like it's not a music store which sells albums in FLAC that your e.g. iPod doesn't support the format. You're free to convert it on your own.
gcb 15y ago
when you buy a game for the wii is it incomplete?
- argv_empty 15y ago
  Sometimes. And I don't even get to play it until it's released.
  - gcb 15y ago
    Good point! I never did something like preordering, so it didn't even crossed my mind. but well, that's goes to show why they don't have to offer free DS version along with it :)
jff 15y ago
I would expect to get, as you put it, the 3DS VERSION for free, if when I purchased the game for the Wii it specifically said that I will receive all future updates and new versions for free. If it shows up for my phone, I might shell out $7 for it anyway.

When you buy a game for the Wii, do you expect to get the 3DS version free?

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risratorn 15y ago

Exactly! Imo it's nothing more than normal you'd have to pay for the mobile versions too.

njharman 15y ago

Yes, just like shifting music or movies from CD/DVD player to mp3/Computer. When I buy "content" or a license to "play" I expect to be able to transfer it amongst all the devices I own. I know software requires manual translation. But, the above behavior is what I expect.

ugh 15y ago
Well, then expect to be disappointed. People will want to be paid for their work.
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aw3c2 15y ago
Music is just data/content, no program code. You can certainly transfer any client files you got from the normal Minecraft installation to your phone and (unsuccessfully) try to use them. A program port is more than just moving data.
watty 15y ago
If you bought a house would you expect a smaller replica of your house to be free? No, it requires work to build that house just like the original and therefore costs money.
- jholman 15y ago
  Worst. Analogy. Evar. If you bought a house, would you expect to be able to use that house on both your desktop AND your laptop, because it's the same damn house? Uh, no, because physical matter doesn't work that way. In case you haven't heard, though, copying data _does_ work that way, and many people DO expect that if they buy music they SHOULD be able to use it on more than one device. And similarly for games (when it's a single chunk of code), which is actually how Minecraft actually works. Note, I'm not arguing that MPE should be free with purchase of Minecraft, or that it shouldn't. I'm just pointing out the deadly obvious: that physical-goods arguments are basically useless for digital goods. I just fed a troll, didn't I?
  - watty 15y ago
    I don't know, I think it's pretty good and certainly better than yours. I assume you don't write software because that's not how porting works. Mojang didn't do a copy/paste job to create the mobile version they actually had to hire a _separate developer_ for the sole purpose of developing the Android game. It probably reuses some assets and code but it's not an easy task to optimize a game as heavy as Minecraft for a mobile device. You can't copy Minecraft from your PC to your Android phone like an MP3 (well you can, but it won't work). My analogy was trying to get to the point that a smaller house would be able to reuse assets (scaled drawings, design, etc.) but it still requires someone (similar to a new developer) to create it and port the existing design to the less complicated design.
    - dkersten 15y ago
      What about: If you bought a house, do you expect to get an identical house free in another country? (a country is like a computer platform, right?)
      - watty 15y ago
        No, that's where my analogy fails. The intention was to use an analogy that someone who doesn't understand software development would understand. It only applies to the development aspect and work required - not the ability to make copies (Minecraft Mobile is not a copy, a separate version).
parfe 15y ago
You are free to take the code you bought and move it right on over to your phone.
icebraining 15y ago
You are able to transfer it. It's not the developer's fault Android won't run an J2SE application, just like it's not a music store which sells albums in FLAC that your e.g. iPod doesn't support the format. You're free to convert it on your own.

gcb 15y ago

when you buy a game for the wii is it incomplete?

argv_empty 15y ago
Sometimes. And I don't even get to play it until it's released.
- gcb 15y ago
  Good point! I never did something like preordering, so it didn't even crossed my mind. but well, that's goes to show why they don't have to offer free DS version along with it :)

jff 15y ago

I would expect to get, as you put it, the 3DS VERSION for free, if when I purchased the game for the Wii it specifically said that I will receive all future updates and new versions for free. If it shows up for my phone, I might shell out $7 for it anyway.