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Also, the program is bad though. We know nothing about who chooses the members of the VIP club, there were cases of harassment and incitement to violence that

Also, the program is bad though. We know nothing about who chooses the members of the VIP club, there were cases of harassment and incitement to violence that went unchecked, and they purposely hid knowledge of the program for their own oversight board - even though they appointed the board themselves. That's all quite, quite bad, to say nothing of the base inequality at he heart of it. They tried to hand-wave that away with this absurd line, saying the program was to: > "create an additional step so we can accurately enforce policies on content that could require more understanding" - dude, that's just saying that their chosen VIPs deserve more understanding, for some reason; in response to serious charges that the 'VIP's were inciting violence and harassing others.

ipaddr 5y ago
Why would you expect facebook to share who chooses what a vip is? I can't think of any other vip program that shares this. A VIP program is about creating two or more classes of users what VIP program promotes equality? The worry most have is the oversite board was not aware of the program which means the oversite board may miss other things. You seem to be against VIP programs in general. Where do you draw the line? Bulk pricing creates inequality by favoring those who can afford to buy many products at once. Are you against this?
- mandmandam 5y ago
  Are you really defending a social media giant implementing a secret VIP program that allowed secret VIPs to harass people and incite violence, when 3 billion other users would face bans and sanctions if they did the exact same thing? I think the 'secret' part, where Facebook knew fully well that even their own oversight board stacked with their own appointees wouldn't tolerate such a thing - never mind 3 billion other users - quite clearly negates deceptive comparisons to "bulk pricing", and the like.

ipaddr 5y ago

Why would you expect facebook to share who chooses what a vip is? I can't think of any other vip program that shares this. A VIP program is about creating two or more classes of users what VIP program promotes equality? The worry most have is the oversite board was not aware of the program which means the oversite board may miss other things. You seem to be against VIP programs in general. Where do you draw the line? Bulk pricing creates inequality by favoring those who can afford to buy many products at once. Are you against this?

mandmandam 5y ago
Are you really defending a social media giant implementing a secret VIP program that allowed secret VIPs to harass people and incite violence, when 3 billion other users would face bans and sanctions if they did the exact same thing? I think the 'secret' part, where Facebook knew fully well that even their own oversight board stacked with their own appointees wouldn't tolerate such a thing - never mind 3 billion other users - quite clearly negates deceptive comparisons to "bulk pricing", and the like.