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Care to explain how that isn't exactly what was being said?

the_optimist 5y ago
First, you edited your comment. Second, you conveniently omit the part where he says he does support disenfranchised people. Third and most importantly, you bizarrely substitute leftist contempt for actual trust. Personally I think this is a pretty selfish statement that involves casting your state of mind and perspective onto someone else with a very negative sentiment.
- JasonCannon 5y ago
  I edited my comment to add: How about instead, you stand for women and people of color because it's the right thing to do? Regardless of how little they trust white men. Maybe, just maybe, try and understand why they wouldn't trust white men? The horror!
  - dang 5y ago
    Please don't use HN for ideological flamewar, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. Even in this pretty hellish thread, your posts are standing out as aggressive. That's not cool. If you're in favor of good causes, or you have better arguments, it's enough to represent those with good information. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- JasonCannon 5y ago
  >Second, you conveniently omit the part where he says he does support disenfranchised people. I just double checked, he definitely did NOT say that. At all.
the_optimist 5y ago
One more point: your argument has very strong resemblance to that of a racialist trying to justify a belief system that is fundamentally rooted in stereotypes and hatred. Contrast that to the person who supports everyone irrespective of their visuals and self-identity.
- JasonCannon 5y ago
  How? You are literally just making things up now.
  - the_optimist 5y ago
    Simply change the labels in your statement and you have textbook discrimination in every country and historical context. “Not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” You saying this now and in the US doesn’t make it less hatred-based or fundamentally unacceptable than it should be. > How about instead, you stand for women and people of color because it's the right thing to do? Regardless of how little they trust white men. Maybe, just maybe, try and understand why they wouldn't trust white men?
    - JasonCannon 5y ago
      Ok but tell me when in America have women and people of color ever oppressed white men? That's why "just change the label and it's totally racist bro" doesn't make any sense at all. Because it's been white men who have oppressed women and people of color. Not the other way around. It has never been the other way around. Ever.
      - AnimalMuppet 5y ago
        It makes sense, because judging people by their skin color is wrong, no matter who does it or who they do it to.

First, you edited your comment. Second, you conveniently omit the part where he says he does support disenfranchised people. Third and most importantly, you bizarrely substitute leftist contempt for actual trust. Personally I think this is a pretty selfish statement that involves casting your state of mind and perspective onto someone else with a very negative sentiment.

JasonCannon 5y ago
I edited my comment to add: How about instead, you stand for women and people of color because it's the right thing to do? Regardless of how little they trust white men. Maybe, just maybe, try and understand why they wouldn't trust white men? The horror!
- dang 5y ago
  Please don't use HN for ideological flamewar, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. Even in this pretty hellish thread, your posts are standing out as aggressive. That's not cool. If you're in favor of good causes, or you have better arguments, it's enough to represent those with good information. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
JasonCannon 5y ago
>Second, you conveniently omit the part where he says he does support disenfranchised people. I just double checked, he definitely did NOT say that. At all.

the_optimist 5y ago

One more point: your argument has very strong resemblance to that of a racialist trying to justify a belief system that is fundamentally rooted in stereotypes and hatred. Contrast that to the person who supports everyone irrespective of their visuals and self-identity.

JasonCannon 5y ago
How? You are literally just making things up now.
- the_optimist 5y ago
  Simply change the labels in your statement and you have textbook discrimination in every country and historical context. “Not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” You saying this now and in the US doesn’t make it less hatred-based or fundamentally unacceptable than it should be. > How about instead, you stand for women and people of color because it's the right thing to do? Regardless of how little they trust white men. Maybe, just maybe, try and understand why they wouldn't trust white men?
  - JasonCannon 5y ago
    Ok but tell me when in America have women and people of color ever oppressed white men? That's why "just change the label and it's totally racist bro" doesn't make any sense at all. Because it's been white men who have oppressed women and people of color. Not the other way around. It has never been the other way around. Ever.
    - AnimalMuppet 5y ago
      It makes sense, because judging people by their skin color is wrong, no matter who does it or who they do it to.