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>Can't get Continental radar hardware anymore? Tesla updates their vehicle software to use vision only. Doesn't that just mean that I'm getting a shittier car

• mattlondon 5y ago
  But you get the car. Some manufacturers have simply shut down production while they wait for parts to become available.
  • Hamuko 5y ago
    But at some point it stops being the car that I ordered as they strip parts from it. Arguably it stops being the car that I ordered the moment they decide to start taking stuff out of it.
    • toomuchtodo 5y ago
      You're buying the final product, not specific components when you place your order. As long as it functions as advertised and meets warranty requirements, it is what you were sold. At least in the case of my Model Y, I was given the option to decline my order as it was placed before the vision transition [1], so there is disclosure and the ability to opt out. [1] https://www.tesla.com/support/transitioning-tesla-vision https://www.tesla.com/support/transitioning-tesla-vision
• rdtwo 5y ago
  Yes but that doesn’t show up in the quarterly numbers
• ggreer 5y ago
  No. Newer versions of Tesla's software disable the radar on cars that shipped with it.[1] Vision has gotten so much better (thanks in part to training from radar data) that radar adds noise to their model of the outside world. Andrej Karpathy explained the issues in a talk this summer.[2] 1. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1447588987317547014 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1447588987317547014 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6bOwQdCJrc&t=589s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6bOwQdCJrc&t=589s