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> This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place What you're doing is called "pearl clutching", and is not adding in any constructive way to the
by unsui 5y ago
> This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place
What you're doing is called "pearl clutching", and is not adding in any constructive way to the conversation.
The way we got here is intentionally by using divisive rhetoric to ellicit "engagement". Traditionally, this has been used politically by identifying wedge issues with the explicit intention to divide people along belief borders.
This has been accelerated and amplified n-fold via social media. Engagement is a proxy for divisive rhetoric, as that is what algorithmically produces the most engagement, thereby triggering the reward function(s).
The cat's out of the bag. Its too late to go back and say "but what about the kids?" etc, (especially since there is so much overwhelming evidence that these themselves are simply rhetorical devices to push a particular argumnent or point of view).
We know these arguments are not in good faith, so why should we give them that due process and respect?
Cut the BS.
- GoblinSlayer 5y agoIt's futile to hope for anything constructive before destruction of polarization.
- thesagan 5y agoBe nice. Golden rule. Don’t call bullshit on people honestly trying to have a dialogue in good faith. That’s divisive.
- Afforess 5y agoCan you explain which of abvdasker's, hackerswords's, unsui's posts were not nice? I sincerely want to know, so I can argue against you further without being "unnice".
- VRay 5y agoI wouldn't mind if this flame war got a little less engagement from some of its participants, personally
- DiggyJohnson 5y agoYou’re throwing away your whole point with your last two comments. You started off productive, partisan, yet clear in your convictions (a good thing). The person that replied to you showed you the gratitude of civilized disagreement and discussion. Then you got mad and unproductive. I agree with every word of your first comment, but make no mistake about what happened here.
- dang 5y agoPlease don't take HN threads further into flamewar hell. It's not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html