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Exactly.:) That's why I stated: Use-case UX. Everything is a compromise. This is one that I cannot make. And I am not alone in this. As a design driven comp

by nbzso 5y ago

Exactly.:) That's why I stated: Use-case UX. Everything is a compromise. This is one that I cannot make. And I am not alone in this. As a design driven company Apple should known better. And the better compromise is: the notch is there because of Face ID. Not because somewhere in the future it will be. It is not. It is a f-in web-cam. Someone stated that "there is no way to do a web cam without the notch". Can you imagine? And this is HN.:) Using enormous "love & brand addiction" to sneak something on the user reminded me about iPhone 4 - "You are holding it wrong" fiasco. I remember clearly that a lot of people tried to convince me that I am wrong in my decision "not to buy".:)

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cassianoleal 5y ago
Yep, and you're free to not purchase this model if it doesn't fit your needs. > And the better compromise is: the notch is there because of Face ID. The notch has nothing to do with FaceID. It's for the webcam. FaceID can exist without a notch just the same and no-FaceID. All it needs is to waste the area around the notch with a bezel, like the older models. As a rock climber who every few days has trouble unlocking the computer with TouchID, I also want FaceID on my Mac. > Someone stated that "there is no way to do a web cam without the notch". I mean, that's obviously untrue since we've had webcams in laptops for many years without notches. The more correct statement would be that you cannot reduce the bezel further than the vertical size of the webcam without a notch - or a retractable webcam like some laptops have (I wouldn't want that moving part on my MacBook though). > reminded me about iPhone 4 - "You are holding it wrong" fiasco. The notch is an aesthetic thing. The iPhone 4 antenna thing actually made the device unusable as a phone. I don't see how these are related. In any case, I am fairly certain there will be (either as part of the OS or as a 3rd party add-on) an option to make the top stripe permanently black and out of the usable screen eventually. If I'm right about this, everybody wins - extra space for those who don't mind the notch, regular 16:10 screen for the ones offended by it.
Vrondi 5y ago
It is hilarious, because Android phones already exist with under screen cameras. You'd think a company that is supposedly as spectacular as Apple claims to be would be on top of this tech.

by nbzso 5y ago

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cassianoleal 5y ago

Yep, and you're free to not purchase this model if it doesn't fit your needs. > And the better compromise is: the notch is there because of Face ID. The notch has nothing to do with FaceID. It's for the webcam. FaceID can exist without a notch just the same and no-FaceID. All it needs is to waste the area around the notch with a bezel, like the older models. As a rock climber who every few days has trouble unlocking the computer with TouchID, I also want FaceID on my Mac. > Someone stated that "there is no way to do a web cam without the notch". I mean, that's obviously untrue since we've had webcams in laptops for many years without notches. The more correct statement would be that you cannot reduce the bezel further than the vertical size of the webcam without a notch - or a retractable webcam like some laptops have (I wouldn't want that moving part on my MacBook though). > reminded me about iPhone 4 - "You are holding it wrong" fiasco. The notch is an aesthetic thing. The iPhone 4 antenna thing actually made the device unusable as a phone. I don't see how these are related. In any case, I am fairly certain there will be (either as part of the OS or as a 3rd party add-on) an option to make the top stripe permanently black and out of the usable screen eventually. If I'm right about this, everybody wins - extra space for those who don't mind the notch, regular 16:10 screen for the ones offended by it.

Vrondi 5y ago

It is hilarious, because Android phones already exist with under screen cameras. You'd think a company that is supposedly as spectacular as Apple claims to be would be on top of this tech.